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Old 06-18-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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What fantasy land you in? Poor ppl with "all the modern conveniences". Next time you're in ghettoland do notice the high number of laundry mats. The poor ppl of this country are not as well off as you imagine.

We should be so lucky to have the same standard of living as most of Europe.

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And is there a problem with the way the U.S. has treated it's poor? I don't think so. We have not had "poor" like there are in other countries.

Most of our "poor" live in homes with refridgerators, TV's, computers, they have at least one car, a clean bed to sleep in at night, washing machines, dryers, and enough food to eat.

Many of the "homeless" in our society are that way by choice. They have put themselves in that position.

I would also note that it never has been the job of the government to take care of the poor, but it has been the Church and other private organizations that have done so, and they have done it with generous donations from caring individuals (many wealthy). We are not, as many think, a greedy people.

Capitalism is not based on "greed." If you believe that, you have been lied to.

Capitalism lifts up our standard of living. It has made us the richest nation in the world with the highest standard of living, bar none. And it has also given us the most freedom and opportunity of any nation in the world.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Discussing Republicans on a politics forum is kind of strange.
Just remember that anything you say bad about their savior, Master Romney, will be met with deflection, deflection, deflection. They have come to realise that their one big hope is nothing but an empty shirted mormon.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Well, it certainly wasn't to get our tanks to the next invasion stepping off point.
Sure it wasn't from YOUR post cold war perch. Lol, and they road the built thru Canada up to Alaska was to promote tourism.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Well, it certainly wasn't to get our tanks to the next invasion stepping off point.

It most certainly was. Eisenhower even referred to it as the "highway Defense System" when he was pushing it through congress.

I edited a previous post to include just one link describing why your interstate system was founded and championed so robustly by your 34th president.

President Dwight Eisenhower and America's Interstate Highway System

Hitler's Autobahn system was a good idea but Eisenhower thought of it at least 20 years prior and for the very same reasons.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:44 AM
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Location: Center of the universe
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Did you know the more zillionaires the more money there is to feed the poor. The poor don't feed the poor!
As hunger and poverty have increased in this country and others, obviously the rich don't either.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Perhaps not, but it was considered to get your armaments to wherever within the continental USA they were deemed needed.

This could arguable be debated to have been considered for both defense from foreign incursion and domestic uprisings.
I know, I was just messing with Chielgirl. The Autobahn is a great engineering feat, despite it's original intentions.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Sure it wasn't from YOUR post cold war perch. Lol, and they road the built thru Canada up to Alaska was to promote tourism.
You do realize that Alaska was invaded by the Japanese, don't you?
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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Oh great flip flopper, you are our only hope, please save us from the evil European socialists.

Romney Says That Without Him, US Will Become ‘Like Europe’ - ABC News
We certainly wouldn't count on you to do it!
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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He specifically made the comparison in relation to the European nations that are defaulting. It is a salient point as we are heading in that direction. Do you even read the articles that you link?
That is actually a good point. The European nations that are defaulting have run pretty much the same economic setup as America. Puny banking regulations, low minimum wages, weak social safety nets, debt-fueled national budgets full of goodies for special interest groups.

Can anyone say that this is vastly different from Americas financial strategy?

The European nations that people in this thread refer to when they use examples of the "good" Europe has economic setups very different from the USA/defaulting nations.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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People in Europe are poor, they put tarrifs on everything, the education is limited,
and most Europeans invest in America's wealth. Romney is right to prevent America turning into another landslide like Europe.

You have to understand the immigrants who come here do not come here to live, they come here to steal our money. Do people really want to live in America and leave their homelands?
They come here seeing work, that would pay next to nothing in their old countries. They take advantage of our health benifits, and retirements, they even are able to afford house, boat, and planes dirt-cheap compared to other places. Even internet in the USA is an auwsome, deal.

We need to have the right people in USA to preseve our rights. The rich people, do not want that because they are rich enough to pay extra for something, that will not last forever. We need lawyers who are pro-USA and not pro-world.

Imagine a person from a not so freindly USA, nation. They go to US schools and get paid alot of money in the US. Then instead of spending, or investing in USA people, they eventually go back to their nations, and live the American dream, and build giant walls to ignore the stys.

My goodness; you've got just about everything reversed within this one post; to wit:

European education is limited.
Immigrants (I'll assume you mean't LEGAL) come not to live but to steal your money.
They come seeking work at jobs that would pay next to nothing in their countries.
They are able to afford houses, boat, even planes dirt cheap in the USA.
"Not so friendly USA nation"?~~ I'll assume you mean't not so friendly to USA nation". Uuuh, perhaps asking yourself why they became unfriendly would be a place to start correcting all of the errors contained within just this one post.
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