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Understand this. This is not a matter of denying violent crime rates in the Black population vs. the White population. This is about a bigoted idea. The problem is that there are people trying to say "Blacks don't have the ability to have a stable society". People are trying to say that race is what makes a person violent. That is what I'm trying to disprove.
Should have never forced at huge population of poor people into a small area. Who just migrated from the south to have jobs other than share cropping. Who also where not allowed to have good schools or good t good schools and because of this they could not build up family wealth to pass on to there children. The children how could not join programs like the boy scouts so they made there own gangs.
Maybe in Maryland, but I've spent some time in the RURAL Deep South, and I've been around some violent White people. And explain this. If violent behavior is limited to Black people, then explain these things:
Why does the mainstream liberal media think it perfectly okay to trash and insult poor white people as "hillbilly" but would never dream of doing the same to poor urban black folk?
Should have never forced at huge population of poor people into a small area. Who just migrated from the south to have jobs other than share cropping. Who also where not allowed to have good schools or good t good schools and because of this they could not build up family wealth to pass on to there children. The children how could not join programs like the boy scouts so they made there own gangs.
The way I see it, Blacks went through a rapid urbanization, mainly because of the need. Jobs were in East St. Louis. And you have a point. Blacks were limited to certain parts of town. When the economy went down, this left Blacks disproportionately affected by the economic downturn. Those Blacks who could afford to leave East St. Louis left. Those who couldn't leave were basically put there. It isn't a matter of Blacks as a whole, but there are other problems. Anyone who could start a business wouldn't not start it in East St. Louis.
Blacks haven't been able to develop nearly as much wealth because from the beginning, most Blacks didn't have much wealth to pass down. Today, the Black middle class is larger than it has ever been before. However, 100 years ago, most Blacks were poor.
Why does the mainstream liberal media think it perfectly okay to trash and insult poor white people as "hillbilly" but would never dream of doing the same to poor urban black folk?
I don't know, I don't watch the news outside of the BBC.
If fact, outside of the news, this is what I see. When Blacks get trashed, they are being judged by the worst of their ethnicity. When "hillbillies" get trashed, it is the culture being trashed. No one judges Whites by the worst of the population.
Illinois Senator Richard Durbin, a Democrat who's been in Congress since the early 1980s, is an East Saint Louis native. You think he would have the clout to do something for the city.
Other communites near East Saint Louis have had their share of problems.
Illinois Senator Richard Durbin, a Democrat who's been in Congress since the early 1980s, is an East Saint Louis native. You think he would have the clout to do something for the city.
Other communites near East Saint Louis have had their share of problems.
They suffered a similar fate. East St. Louis became economically irrelevant, and the same happened to nearby places. People came to these places to work. It makes me wonder if East St. Louis could have become like bedroom suburb for St. Louis.
East Saint Louis, IL is considered one of the most dangerous places in the USA. Population right now is about 30000.
In 2010, there were 21 murders, pretty high for a town of 30000. I drove through this town when I was in St Louis last time and it is very bad. There are intersections where the traffic lights do not work, most of the roads in ESTL are in very bad condition, the average price of a home in ESTL is $40000.
Population is 98% Black and the other 2% are White, Hispanic and Asian.In your opinion, is there a way to fix a town in this condition? If so, what would it take to fix a town like this?
East of anywhere," writes a reporter for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "often evokes the other side of the tracks. But, for a first-time visitor suddenly deposited on its eerily empty streets, East St. Louis might suggest another world." The city, which is 98 percent black, has no obstetric services, no regular trash collection, and few jobs. Nearly a third of its families live on less than $7,500 a year; 75 percent of its population lives on welfare of some form. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development describes it as "the most distressed small city in America."
There is no way to have a discussion about this without mentioning race, and there is no way to mention race on CD without being accused of being a racist. There is a serious problem which exists in this country - not only in East St. Louis, but many other urban centers as well. It is badly broken and needs to be fixed. I have no answers.
There is no way to have a discussion about this without mentioning race, and there is no way to mention race on CD without being accused of being a racist. There is a serious problem which exists in this country - not only in East St. Louis, but many other urban centers as well. It is badly broken and needs to be fixed. I have no answers.
20yrsinBranson
Have you thought of why race is such a hot button topic? It is because there are many hard feelings.
Have you thought of why race is such a hot button topic? It is because there are many hard feelings.
Sure there are. But that does not change the facts. And those "hard feelings" keep us from all working together to solve the problem.
Until we can talk honestly there can be no resolution to these issues.
20yrsBranson
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