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Just because YOU feel it is a fake problem, doesn't make it so.
Of course it doesn't. The fact that it is a fake problem is what makes it so.
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There are documented cases of medical problems because of language barriers and more.
Since making a language "official" doesn't magically teach it to immigrants and eliminate the "language barriers" of which you complain here, how are you hallucinating that placing additional barriers would help?
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Quite frankly I don't think a single locality or business should have to support multiple languages, and if you THINK so, then maybe YOU should pay the extra money anyone needs to pay to support multiple languages, OR the people who require translators should pay the extra money, or provide the translators.
Fake problem.
Localities that choose to support multiple languages choose to support them because they have decided it makes more sense (economic and social) than not supporting them.
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In france, they do not go out of their way to support non french speakers, as well as over a dozen countries I have been to. If you cannot communicate in THEIR language, you are on your own.
And how well is that working out for them?
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If a business CHOOSES to have contracts spun up in multiple languages, having an official language would not prevent that.
See? I told you it was a fake problem. You seem to now agree.
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Lastly, I have not been misinformed of my grandparent's public behavior. They were proud to be able to speak English, and GLAD they were no longer in Russia. In the privacy of their own home, they spoke russian to each other, SOME of the time, but never while anyone was around that couldn't speak it, because they felt it was disrespectful.
Once again, I believe that you are misinformed. The standard pattern for immigrants has always been to initially locate in an area where a number of their fellow nationals are present specifically because the native language is widely spoken and it eases the process (not the event) of acculturation. I suppose you have never visited a "Little Italy" a "Chinatown" or a "Little Vietnam" in any American city?
Here. This is Los Angeles:
In the early 1900s major American cities had scores of foreign language newspapers to include Russian. My own wife's great-grandfather was editor of the Dzienik Chicagoski, and he was no less proud of his ability to speak English or GLAD that he was no longer in Poland than your grandparents probably were.
You are simply repeating a modern myth. The behavior of current immigrants is not significantly different from that of earlier immigrants.
Currently the federal has no official language in the United States. However English is the main language and is spoken by 80% of Americans at home (only). Several states has declared English to be their official language.
Spanish is the second most widely spoken language, and French is the third. English, French, and Spanish are the main languages spoken in North America.
Is it time to declare English as the official language in the U.S.?
Yep, it should but it might take a constitutional amendment to have English declared the official language at the federal, state & municipal level. Of course, this does not mean other languages would or should be demonized or criminalized.
Many people on the left look at the Scandinavians, Canada, Germany as models to follow, well ALL THOSE NATIONS HAVE OFFICIALLY DECLARED NATIONAL LANGUAGES.
Yep, it should but it might take a constitutional amendment to have English declared the official language at the federal, state & municipal level. Of course, this does not mean other languages would or should be demonized or criminalized.
Many people on the left look at the Scandinavians, Canada, Germany as models to follow, well ALL THOSE NATIONS HAVE OFFICIALLY DECLARED NATIONAL LANGUAGES.
Over half of our states have declared English as their state's official language. Time for the feds to get on the ball.
Many people on the left look at the Scandinavians, Canada, Germany as models to follow, well ALL THOSE NATIONS HAVE OFFICIALLY DECLARED NATIONAL LANGUAGES.
Canada actually has more than one (French is also an official language there). And as for the Scandinavians, the Norwegians recognize three; two versions of Norwegian (Bokmål and Nynorsk) and Sami. The Finns three; Finnish, Swedish and Sami. The Swedes two; Swedish and Sami. The Danes only have one in Europe, but Kalaallisut is the official language in their Greenland.
Over half of our states have declared English as their state's official language. Time for the feds to get on the ball.
The feds are going to keep dropping the ball until, We The People, either force them to do their job as public servants or vote in those that have some sense of responsibility to American citizens, 1st & foremost.
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Canada actually has more than one (Frnech is also an official language there). And as for the Scandinavians, the Norwegians recognize three; two versions of Norwegian (Bokmål and Nynorsk) and Sami. The Finns three; Finnish, Swedish and Sami. The Swedes two; Swedish and Sami.
I know that. That still does not detract from the point that the nations that many on the American left look up to as models to follow have official national languages.
I know that. That still does not detract from the point that the nations that many on the American left look up to as models to follow have official national languages.
Most appear to have several. Do you support the US following suit and officially recognize that it is multi-lingual?
If we stopped spending all the money on multiple support services for all/every language and started spending it on English language classes for legal immigrants it would probably be better for everyone. Cleaner, simpler, easier, cheaper, better citizens, better outcome for the immigrants and their families, less legeal problems, etc.
If we stopped spending all the money on multiple support services for all/every language and started spending it on English language classes for legal immigrants it would probably be better for everyone.
We don't spend money "on multiple support services for all/every language," and the same folks who support English as our official national language generally oppose ESL instruction too.
Go figure.
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