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This is a red herring, since without water, there wouldn't be anyone to worry about these things? Is that what you prefer? I might also point out that water vapor has increased in the atmosphere because of global warming. Yeah, it's a friggin vicious cycle, I know.
Water vapor increasing? And you claim it's co2 that causes the global warming. lol
So the small percentage of co2 in the atmoshpere is going to destroy all the food and water on the planet??
It is and will continue to affect our fresh water supplies and our food supplies.
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There is nothing to back this statement up at all. If anything a warmer climate will produce a longer growing season and more food.
CO2 enhances plant growth, but there is a limit, beyond which it actually impedes growth. Furthermore, the effect on the climate is such that weather extremes become more frequent ands severe, so that we see increased drought in some areas, and increased flooding and other bad weather. The Western U.S. is currently in a long-term drought and there appears to be no reason to believe it will let up anytime soon. Over 1,000 warm weather records have already fallen this month. We just went through the warmest winter on record. Shall I continue?
What is funny is the same ice core data and ocean sediment samples were used in the seventies to try and push the ice age is coming mantra. Of course they didn't use co2 back then. lol
Co2 makes up such a small percentage of the dreaded greenhouse effect I'm surprised they even took this route to try and push this nonsense. Co2 is great for life. Makes plants happy. Why do you think folks grow plants in greenhouses?? lol
Ice core data is useful but it has a few quirks concerning it as mentioned in the commentary link I provided. There is also research out there that brings into question the accuracy of using the ice cores as well.
If you look at the plant stomata, it isn't ideal either, but it does tend to show that there are high concentrations of C02 at certain time lines (some research suggests it is a better judge of C02 content as well). Its problem is the sparsity in its samples and the requirements needed to get a valid sample. The samples however do show a conflict with the ice cores. Add in the GEOCARB data and you also bring in some questions and issues.
The entire point is that there is no "hard facts" concerning this as the poster was suggesting. The problem in climate science is there are too many "Oh! that looks like it supports my hypothesis! It must be right!" and a lot less objective evaluation and due diligence.
So the small percentage of co2 in the atmoshpere is going to destroy all the food and water on the planet?? There is nothing to back this statement up at all. If anything a warmer climate will produce a longer growing season and more food. Or would you rather have an ice age envelope the earth and watch people starve?
Well, their entire position is saddled on the fact that C02 is the main driver and that even a very small amount contributed by us is the "tipping point" to which throws off the entire climate system. It is an interesting hypothesis, though it tends to place our climate into a position that it is as fragile as an egg and it has a serious problem with being able to validate its position through observational data (hence the constant revising of past observational records to give the appearance that it is working in line with their models).
Heck, have you seen the CRUTEM4 data? They basically took the past 30 years of records that we do have and lowered it to make recent records look significant. Of course, this is only seen by those who frequent and read about the science itself, most people see the news and think everything is validated.
Get used to a lot of fear mongering this summer as we are tipping into an El Nino and El Nino cycles are the bread and butter of alarmists.
Oh yeah I read where they were calling for a 50% chance of a strong el nino. You know the globals will be out screaming at the moon when it hits if it does. Hell when it snows its because of global warming anymore. They don't even realize how ridiculous that sounds to people. I'm sure when the next ice age sets in they will look back and say see they were right global warming caused this damn ice age.
Oh yeah I read where they were calling for a 50% chance of a strong el nino. You know the globals will be out screaming at the moon when it hits if it does. Hell when it snows its because of global warming anymore. They don't even realize how ridiculous that sounds to people. I'm sure when the next ice age sets in they will look back and say see they were right global warming caused this damn ice age.
They will continue on with it without missing a beat. Those who push CAGW in the face of conflicting evidence aren't doing it because they are worried about the world heating up, rather because it is their ticket to institute the politics of their choice. If it turns into a cold trend, they will simply push on as they were right all along and keep pushing those controls and demands.
It is sad, as that crowd has done more to destroy modern science than most people realize. What is next? Engineering? Wait for the buildings to come tumbling down around you. Thing is, some are going on about their motive actually being that of destroying modern civilization to take us back hundreds of years in progress to live as hunter/gatherers (with the result of their goals being the deaths of millions of people). There are times, I question my objection to that hypothesis.
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