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Old 06-27-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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The United States of America defines marriage as a right.

Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is a list of things that one benefits from with marriage:

Rights and responsibilities of marriages in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It might say that marriage is a right, but it obviously isn't since the Fed. Gov doesn't recognize is. But you can't go by what the Gov't says - anything that is done "normally" is a right.

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Old 06-27-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Get over it we all have our crosses to bear.
Let me guess, you're a straight white male?
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Let me guess, you're a straight white male?
Black male that hates the color of his skin.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
The United States of America defines marriage as a right.

Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is a list of things that one benefits from with marriage:

Rights and responsibilities of marriages in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They might say it is, but since the Fed Gov't doesn't recognize homosexual marriage, it isn't!

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Old 06-27-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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In this country marriage is a legal binding of two people. God is not involved in the LEGAL, CIVIL marriage.
If you want to have a religious marriage, that is fine, but not everyone in this country believes in your god, and some churches are perfectly fine with same sex marriage.

Many same sex couple are raising children, and should be afforded the same protections as any other family.
If YOU don't like that, too bad.

Most states don't even have civil unions for same sex couples, and where they are legal they are not EVER equal to the state and federal benefits and privileges that go with a marriage license.

Sorry, but being an American citizen entitles me to the same benefits as every other American citizen. Quit trying to deny rights, and privileges that our constitution guarantees to EVERY American citizen.
I don't like that, but apparently it isn't too bad, because the states don't have to recognize it. The Constitution DOES NOT mention marriage, which is why the states administer it. If a state's citizens want homosexual marriage, they can act accordingly, but not force others to do so. Marriage is a religious institution anyway. The Gov't got involved because they saw that they could make money off of it.

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Old 06-27-2012, 07:41 PM
 
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I don't like that, but apparently it isn't too bad, because the states don't have to recognize it. The Constitution DOES NOT mention marriage, which is why the states administer it. If a state's citizens want homosexual marriage, they can act accordingly, but not force others to do so. Marriage is a religious institution anyway. The Gov't got involved because they saw that they could make money off of it.

Charles Sands
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Actually, the "Full Faith and Credit" clause dictates that states MUST recognize the marriages of other states, even if the "citizens of one state" wouldn't allow that same marriage to take place in their own.

For example, several states allow what is essentially child marriage. As long as it's heterosexual, anyway. If a 13 year old gets married in state A, and moves to state B, state B must still recognize the validity of the marriage, even if they don't allow 13 year olds.

That's how it works in these UNITED States of America.

Currently, DOMA prevents gay marriages had in some states from being recognized in other states. Repeal of DOMA is a good first step. That way, even if backwoods state X doesn't want to PERFORM the marriage in their borders, people can still go elsewhere and get married, and return and have their benefits and rights.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I don't like that, but apparently it isn't too bad, because the states don't have to recognize it. The Constitution DOES NOT mention marriage, which is why the states administer it. If a state's citizens want homosexual marriage, they can act accordingly, but not force others to do so. Marriage is a religious institution anyway. The Gov't got involved because they saw that they could make money off of it.

Charles Sands
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The constitution does mention that states are not allowed to deny rights, and privileges to one American citizen that is granted to another American citizen.
States are not allowed to discriminate based on gender either. They are discriminating by not allowing a woman to enter a contract that a man can enter into.
Bob can enter into a marriage contract with Jane, but Jill can't enter into a marriage contract with Jane.

Marriage was around long before the church got involved in it. You might want to study the history of marriage.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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Oh I'm sorry, was the name of this forum changed to "All Gay Issues"?
Were you forced to read any of the gay issues threads?
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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That's not in the constitution.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Do us all a favor, please and tell us what you think those words mean if it doesn't mean government and religion are to be separate

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Old 06-27-2012, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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You make my point, that the Federal Government has no business being involved in marriage at all, since it has always been a religious ceremony.
Except it hasn't. In fact, in the Middle Ages, the church wanted nothing to do with marriage, considering it a strictly secular matter.
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