Tell me good things about the new healthcare (health care system, borders, illegals)
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As long has you need to have a dughter or son covered to 27 or need unlimited lifetime coverage its going to be divided by pool you join so overall it will be lower thaqn normal for you.If you are below certain incomelevcel you will be placed inot Medicaid which lowers your cost and raises others taxpayers taxes to pay for it.As the supreme court ruling it now does not have to be passed on i 2017 when states takeover thier protio increase by raising taxes.Bascailly if you are oin certain class of income it lower your cost for insurance and if over that its increases ti by maki gyou pay fopr that cost.
I read an article a while back where the average cost to insure a family by the employer was something around 20K a year. The fine is 3K. I wonder what they will do?
They dump the family onto the gubmnt program and the family says well I have to pay my 450 fine in '14 or whatever it is until it bumps up to 2K in '16 and if anybody gets really sick I'll just go sign up for insurance then because they can't turn me down and let the insurance company pay for it then cancel the coverage when the bills are gone. If my kid needs to see a doc just pay for it out of pocket. Hell the copay's and the like have already gone way up anyway to help the companies mitigate the expense to cover employees in the first place. This is the mess that has been created. If you don't sign up and pay the fine you STILL can't be turned away at a hospital anyway so if you get in a car wreck etc. guess who is footing the bill STILL?
Keep trying as there is a chance that someday some of these people will understand.
You get to prove you have insurance, but still dont have to prove you're a citizen or prove you are who you say you are when you vote
THEY can't understand that kind of talk. Keep trying because many of THEM are intelligent enough for some truth to slip through what the progressives have been telling THEM.
THANK YOU! I've been saying this for 2 years now...why don't people realize that EVERYONE now does have health care, a lot of people just don't pay for it, and our insurance premiums are higher because of it. This is just a 6 of one, half dozen of the other. But OHHHHH it's SOCIALISM!!!!! Good lord I'm gonna move to Canada I swear.
I prefer thailand where personal accountability and responsibility are alive and well. Medical treatment and dental is inexpensive and of high quality. Cant beat the food either and it never snows.
1. Everyone who can pay, will pay. Sticking everyone else with the bill is going to become significantly more difficult. This is a huge win for personal responsibility, which of course the GOP detests, except when they're proposing it.
2. Everyone will be able to get coverage. It's the right thing to do, and makes it easier for people with pre-existing conditions to do crazy things like start their own businesses, since they'll no longer be turned down when trying to buy insurance.
3. Insurance companies have to use 80-85% of premiums to pay for healthcare. If they don't, they have to return money to their customers. This means about a billion dollars being returned to customers this year.
Guess what I just heard Obama saying in a video from 2009? Yep, you will not see your taxes go up, any kind of taxes, if you make less than $250,000 per year. The mandate has been declared a tax by the Supreme Court and that means that was another of Obama's lies. You are still taken in by lies that have been proved to be lies by him.
Surely you don't believe that HHS or the IRS will go after all that money from insurance companies you talk about. Is there any reason why they should pay their employees? Naw, but you can count those expenses in with health care. :roll eyes:
Oh me, I forgot to say that I heard Obama saying those words about not having taxes go up on Fox and surely they created that video. I don't think so because other sources used to play that video, some of them being MSM.
To me, the inability to deny preexisting conditions is the clincher.
You really aren't looking at this with both eyes, are you, or do you only have one eye to look with. I mean that if you are in business do you do foolish things to force you to lose money. Surely that applies to insurance companies, doesn't it?
To me, the inability to deny preexisting conditions is the clincher.
The best thing about it is that we can repeal it after we change presidents in the Nov. election. The real
tragedy is that we can't vote those clowns out of the Scotus.
What about illegal aliens who WILL keep using the ER as ther a primary care doctors? Many hospitals - especially close to the border - have gone bankrupt because of it.
What will happen to everyone's premiums when we continue to keep the borders open and more and more illegals flood the system? Nancy Pelosi stood up and said that they had removed the clause where illegals were covered, but she lied. My shocked face.....
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My shocked face.....
