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Oh, I realize it won't stop. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about legal abortion (murder).
If a woman is in danger of losing her life, I can agree with abortion. If it's a tramp who (along with her baby daddy to be) made a bad decision, which is probably 1,000,000 times more likely, OUTLAW IT. I could care less if those women are relegated to back room abortions. If it is not legal and readily available, maybe these people will think twice before having sex without protection. Then again, as our population continues its demographic shift towards third world staus, I don't expect rational decision making to prevail.
Frankly, I don't care if you agree with it or not.
All women who want abortions are "tramps"? Really.
Outlawing it will cause women to die. Period.
I understand that you don't care about women, only the fetus and only until it's born. If you want to play games, use the proper terminology.
Adopting lately?
Or just condemning women.
How about this, when you get pregnant, you get to decide.
Until then, not so much.
Or she can find a couple that cannot have children to adopt and have them semi-support you until the child is delivered.
You want to force women to carry an unwanted fetus?
Unwanted is the key.
What are you going to do, jail them? Lock them in a basement and force them to breed?
Wonderful sign posted yesterday at the front of the clinic after the federal judge's decision that it can stay open until a ruling on the law that would essentially close it -- Happy Independence Day, indeed:
You have admitted yourself that some of your talking points were wrong, whether you realize it or not.
I have actually TALKED to women who have had abortions. Women in my family have had abortions. Do I think less of them for it? No, because we all make stupid mistakes. But I do pray for them. Most of the women I have met regret it, and tell me how depressed they were after it. Others feel absolutely no remorse and resemble sociopaths, which is what our culture is telling them it's okay.
"It's okay to be a sociopath and not feel remorse for doing something wrong, because the only ones who think it's wrong are the right wing Jesus freaks." This is not only the attitude for abortion, but for a lot of things that, most, people consider immoral. We are screwed when more people care about the freaking saplings than an unborn child.
What made you go away from the pro-life movement, if you don't mind me asking?
I don't think all of your posts are dumb just.... the dumb ones.
They don't answer things that they don't have talking points for.
Seriously...the self congratulatory stuff is getting old.
There were many things that made me leave the pro life movement. The hypocrisy, the hatred of women, the faux outrage for 'babies' but the outright disdain for the women who were involved and the lies. Oooooh, the lies... Using photos that were from medical textbooks or medically relevant abortions very late term (ya know, the ones where the fetus doesn't have a brain or spinal chord etc.) or miscarriages that wer no fault of the woman and using them on signs and telling women that this is what they're doing etc. It was blatant lying and emotional coercion and I just couldn't be a part of that movement.
After talking to many women who had abortions (under the guise of pro life counseling, of course) I realized that these women were autonomous beings who thought long and hard to make a very difficult decision and surprisingly did not regret it. My pro life people always told me that they did regret it, but wouldn't admit it. After actually talking to these women, I believed the women.
Having access to safe abortions is extremely important. Why doesn't the pro life movement focus more on providing contraception and education to PREVENT the abortion in the first place? It seems to me the same pro life movement who is trying to ban abortion are the same people trying to block women from using contraception and blocking schools from teaching comprehensive sex-ed. Why is that? I'm very pro-choice and I spend a lot time trying to educate women to prevent abortions from happening, yet the people trying to BAN them aren't? Isn't that odd?
Or she can find a couple that cannot have children to adopt and have them semi-support you until the child is delivered.
yes force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want because it was the product of a violent act against her. Her mental state is already in shambles, and you want to force her to bear the child of the person who forced her to have sex against her will.
Depraved isn't a strong enough word to describe this kind of disgusting sentiment.
Seriously...the self congratulatory stuff is getting old.
There were many things that made me leave the pro life movement. The hypocrisy, the hatred of women, the faux outrage for 'babies' but the outright disdain for the women who were involved and the lies. Oooooh, the lies... Using photos that were from medical textbooks or medically relevant abortions very late term (ya know, the ones where the fetus doesn't have a brain or spinal chord etc.) or miscarriages that wer no fault of the woman and using them on signs and telling women that this is what they're doing etc. It was blatant lying and emotional coercion and I just couldn't be a part of that movement.
After talking to many women who had abortions (under the guise of pro life counseling, of course) I realized that these women were autonomous beings who thought long and hard to make a very difficult decision and surprisingly did not regret it. My pro life people always told me that they did regret it, but wouldn't admit it. After actually talking to these women, I believed the women.
Having access to safe abortions is extremely important. Why doesn't the pro life movement focus more on providing contraception and education to PREVENT the abortion in the first place? It seems to me the same pro life movement who is trying to ban abortion are the same people trying to block women from using contraception and blocking schools from teaching comprehensive sex-ed. Why is that? I'm very pro-choice and I spend a lot time trying to educate women to prevent abortions from happening, yet the people trying to BAN them aren't? Isn't that odd?
It really isn't odd since Anti-Choicers don't really care about "life", just punishing women who enjoy sex. One poster even expressed that the women who died from back-alley abortions got what they deserved, she LIKED that!!!
I applaud your post ...it shows your compassion and intelligence on the subject.
yes force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want because it was the product of a violent act against her. Her mental state is already in shambles, and you want to force her to bear the child of the person who forced her to have sex against her will.
Depraved isn't a strong enough word to describe this kind of disgusting sentiment.
But....but....they are soooo concerned about the so-called trauma a woman endures when she has an abortion.....an abortion that is not forced upon her against her will, BTW.
Women should be "counseled", encouraged, or FORCED to fulfill their destiny as incubators.....at all cost.....otherwise....they cannot possibly ever attain true happiness.
Why doesn't the pro life movement focus more on providing contraception and education to PREVENT the abortion in the first place? It seems to me the same pro life movement who is trying to ban abortion are the same people trying to block women from using contraception and blocking schools from teaching comprehensive sex-ed. Why is that? I'm very pro-choice and I spend a lot time trying to educate women to prevent abortions from happening, yet the people trying to BAN them aren't? Isn't that odd?
Well said!
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