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Old 07-16-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Now you've moved the goalpost. We went from talking about murder to "taking a life". These are radically different concepts.
The goalpost has not moved, you just call it something else.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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grandpa was born 75 years ago. not taking a life it is a fetus/potential life until it is born
Life begins before you are born.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Why would that child automatically need those things?
Many if not most women who get abortions don't do so "just cause," contrary to what many anti-abortion folk think. Economic issues are a huge factor. They're already flat broke, they have no resources with which to raise a child, the person that they had them with is a wreck, nuts, abusive, maybe raped them...

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I was not aborted and I don't need them.
Same here. But then, I'm going to assume that neither of us are sixteen year olds who got date raped while drunk.

Why are there are so many "pro-lifers" who stop caring about an unborn child the second that they're born to a poor woman who'll leech off the system. Some sort of original sin thing?

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Old 07-16-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The goalpost has not moved, you just call it something else.
It most certainly has. I can point out many examples of "taking a life" that do not equate to murder. Ever hear of the death penalty or euthanasia?
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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Life begins before you are born.
that is subjective. it doesn't live until it is born. besides unless you are the one to carry it, birth it and nurture it for 18 years it is none of your business what a woman does with her own body.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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Why would that child automatically need those things?
Many if not most women who get abortions don't do so "just cause," contrary to what many anti-abortion folk think. Economic issues are a huge factor. They're already flat broke, they have no resources with which to raise a child, the person that they had them with is a wreck, nuts, abusive, maybe raped them...


Same here. But then, I'm going to assume that neither of us are sixteen year olds who got date raped while drunk.

Why are there are so many "pro-lifers" who stop caring about an unborn child the second that they're born to a poor woman who'll leech off the system. Some sort of original sin thing?
So, you are only for abortions where a child was raped?
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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that is subjective. it doesn't live until it is born. besides unless you are the one to carry it, birth it and nurture it for 18 years it is none of your business what a woman does with her own body.
Life begins before birth.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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It most certainly has. I can point out many examples of "taking a life" that do not equate to murder. Ever hear of the death penalty or euthanasia?
If you want to play word or legal games to distract, I will not play that game.

Taking the life of an unborn is morally wrong.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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If you want to play word or legal games to distract, I will not play that game.

Taking the life of an unborn is morally wrong.
morally wrong to you, so don't have an abortion. the rest of us get to choose for ourselves.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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morally wrong to you, so don't have an abortion. the rest of us get to choose for ourselves.
How far do you carry that?

Are you willing to watch someone get raped because it is not morally wrong to the rapist?
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