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Old 07-02-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Do you have such a plan? Because the tax starts in 2018.

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My parents might, I don't know. I'm just 19 now but will be 25 in 2018.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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As for freedom, what freedom is being infringed
Is that question serious? You're not usually sarcastic, but I have to call this one as such.

How about the freedom to choose whether or not I want to engage in business with a private entity, without having a hefty tax lobbed on me if I don't?

How about the freedom to choose what coverage I want, should I decide to engage in that business?

Thanks to Obamacare, one will no longer be able to purchase a plan that covers only catastrophic situations. Every policy sold MUST include preventative care, prescriptions and other things that I prefer to pay for out of pocket. I have lost the freedom to make my own decision regarding what coverage I want to buy, and will now have to purchase a very expensive policy that I'll rarely use, instead of a cheap policy that I'll probably never use.

I can't believe you even wrote that, mta. What a stupid question.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My parents might, I don't know. I'm just 19 now but will be 25 in 2018.
Do you have your own insurance? Or, are you on your parents' plan?

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How about the freedom to choose whether or not I want to engage in business with a private entity, without having a hefty tax lobbed on me if I don't?
Do you make that argument for auto insurance? For property taxes? For home insurance? And at federal level, for example, defense spending?
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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I don't see anything unreasonable with those taxes. Most of them fall on the upper brackets that have been getting a deal on taxes for ten years.

Also, what's the problem with the penalty tax for those who don't buy health insurance? Those people choose to have no health insurance but when they have an illness show up to ER and expect the rest of us to pay for their care. Why should they get a free ride and shirk personal responsibility? Isn't that what conservatives preach, personal responsibility?

Of course you don't.

This is the largest tax increase in US history and now Obama and the dems OWN IT. Good luck in November. Let's see how many other citizens "don't mind" the new taxes.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Of course you don't.

This is the largest tax increase in US history and now Obama and the dems OWN IT. Good luck in November. Let's see how many other citizens "don't mind" the new taxes.
Your knowledge of history itself is questionable, much less your idea of tax increases.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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My parents might, I don't know. I'm just 19 now but will be 25 in 2018.
I love this quote, it speaks volumes about the people criticizing the plan.

on a side note......in 2018, because of the ACA, you will still be able to be under your parents plan if necessary.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I love this quote, it speaks volumes about the people criticizing the plan.

on a side note......in 2018, because of the ACA, you will still be able to be under your parents plan if necessary.
Although, I wish, people like him are forced to live under republican plan.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Obama said 'not one single dime' increase in taxes for a couple making under $250,000 [$200,000 single]
No matter your income, if you have to purchase a $3000 wheel chair, you WILL pay a [2.3%] $69 excise tax. To me, that's more than a 'single dime'.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The lying liberals on CNN are saying that one has to make 250k to pay any healthcare taxes.. just heard it.. what a bunch of hooey and they said it was pants on fire garbage saying what is true and what isn't... give me a break.. how can they lie like that to the public??
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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Do you make that argument for auto insurance? For property taxes? For home insurance? And at federal level, for example, defense spending?
You know I never thought liberals lacked the ability to comprehend the difference between a fee to participate in a priviledge, and a right, and state rights, vs federal limitations.

Home insurance isnt government mandated, you arent taxed if you dont own a home, and you have no auto insurance if you dont drive.

For gods sakes stop the childish crap.
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