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Another thread dedicated to the put down of higher education.
Why do some people think that by putting down the college educated it makes them seem smarter??
FWIW, all of my most conservative friends are college educated and are total elitists when it comes to the "uneducated."
On the contrary, I am amplifying how significant and undervalued the total life experience is , and in my opinion is one's real education. Also, in college I would never take most of what my professors said literally. I would always question and draw my own conclusions. I see too many younger college students taking what their professors dish out as the holy grail. Additionally, I simply think most professors would have a hard time working in the real world. They love having young, often naive kids look up to them, view them as intelligent with challenging them!
Another thread dedicated to the put down of higher education.
Why do some people think that by putting down the college educated it makes them seem smarter??
FWIW, all of my most conservative friends are college educated and are total elitists when it comes to the "uneducated."
Just because a person does not have an advanced degree does not make a person stupid. I don't know any liberal who thinks that way. Starting threads attacking higher education...well maybe.
Being educated is a byproduct of a number of factors including work and life experiences, social interactions, and emotional intelligence..basically none of which college can teach you. Some of my most successful friends worth millions now didn't even go to college, and some that did dropped out after a couple years to start their own gigs. Know some folks with PHds now working the barista at Starbucks, probably even a few on here complaining about how life isn't fair blaming someone else
Your work ethic , your ability to self teach, and how you manage your time and interact with others are all far more critical to ones success in life than getting a diploma, contrived from professors ..many of whom have probably never gotten their hands dirty in the real world.
I agree that there are different type of Intelligences and psychology courses even teach about them. However, current exams do not measure those type of intelligences and in the real world a degree is worth more (and it has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative). It's great that you and other people were able to succeed in life without a degree, but I would say it's an exception to the rule. Stats show that those with higher learning tend to make more money and thus are more successful.
Colleges provide the resources that are not available to individuals alone. For example if I want to be a chemist, it's far better to go get a degree in chemistry than to try my hand at it. For liberal arts college provides a setting where ideas meet with other ideas as well as a whole host of resources.
Nobody is saying that college is the end all be all. However in today's society, the benefit of specialization and resources provided by a university help to attain a position that promotes further life experiences. Those life experiences help people grow and become educated in other ways.
To bash college is the wrong way of looking at the situation. Rather, look at it as a stepping stone for further development.
Additionally, I simply think most professors would have a hard time working in the real world. They love having young, often naive kids look up to them, view them as intelligent with challenging them!
Can you provide us with an example of what you mean by "challenging" one's professors? (I'm assuming that you meant "withOUT challenging them" and that you were referring to the kids not challenging their professors rather than the other way around. Your post lacks clarity.
That's a very good question. I think it has to do with the liberals' elitism.
Liberals think if something required a large sum of money it's automatically great. Especially if it required a whole lot of government (ie taxpayers) money.
It's just like the way the liberals sneer at those working blue collar types they call "rednecks" and despise people in affordable housing that they call trailer trash.
I went to college w/o taking out any loans, as did DH.
On the contrary, I am amplifying how significant and undervalued the total life experience is , and in my opinion is one's real education. Also, in college I would never take most of what my professors said literally. I would always question and draw my own conclusions. I see too many younger college students taking what their professors dish out as the holy grail. Additionally, I simply think most professors would have a hard time working in the real world. They love having young, often naive kids look up to them, view them as intelligent with challenging them!
Someday, when you are older and, hopefully, wiser you will realize that the bolded portion of your above post is what higher education is all about. It doesn't make you smarter than other people, it makes you smarter than you were before you started learning.
Based on your posts in this thread, it is clear that you are still a work in progress.
Yes it is. Common sense is nothing but logic. Most of many subjects taught in college depend on logical thinking. Logic is also taught as a subject.
The first purpose of a college degree is to learn how to think and reason carefully. Everything else is a study and development of a particular skill. Some of those skills require a person to get their hands dirty, and some don't.
College at it's core is nothing more than concentrated, disciplined development of coherent thinking skills.
A large portion of people in general are stupid also most of the college graduates who give college a bad name never actually sit in college. They attend for profit internet "Universities" with all the admission standards of a McDonald's drive-through window. (You got money? Well what is your order?)
Though generally, in my experience with stupid people, the chances of a person not having a college degree being stupid, are much, much higher then the chances of a person with a college degree being stupid.
Not just the internet universities. A significant number of universities no longer have admission standards of any kind. And if some student repeats classes often enough and just sticks with it -- maybe taking 8 years instead of 4, eventually that student will be handed a degree.
Times are changing. 20 years ago you had to be a little bit intelligent to make it through college - although not especially smart. Now with everyone able to go to college, no matter what their gpa, or ability, a college degree doesn't mean all that much. And it definitely doesn't mean someone has a work ethic or any ambition. It doesn't mean someone can read and follow written procedures - or write them, it doesn't mean one can analyze a situation or perform complex math.
Now with the tuition going sky high, many of your smarter kids who can do a little math might just decide on some field that gets them earning money right away and that doesn't require a loan that will take at least 30 years to pay off. Those who realize that half of college graduates are not finding jobs -- and that employers can just easily bring in H1B visa immigrants who will work for much less than the American student would have wanted -- what's the point in taking on $100,000 in debt when the employers can easily find employees eager to take $40,000 a year?
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