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Looked like the old guy wanted to be left the hell alone myself. Some partisan hack comes around bugging me on my day off with a mic and camera I'd tell him to go to hell. Guy showed some restraint IMO.
Looked like the old guy wanted to be left the hell alone myself. Some partisan hack comes around bugging me on my day off with a mic and camera I'd tell him to go to hell. Guy showed some restraint IMO.
Kind of what I was thinking too. He probably was just saying that to get the guy to leave him alone.... IDK....
Looked like the old guy wanted to be left the hell alone myself. Some partisan hack comes around bugging me on my day off with a mic and camera I'd tell him to go to hell. Guy showed some restraint IMO.
This is just another partisan hack who has never bothered even read NDAA, and I am not referring to the Obama supporter being interviewed. For an Obama supporter the interviewee was incredibly tolerant. I would not be as tolerant in a similar situation.
For one thing the moron interviewer did not know that NDAA passed Congress with a veto-proof majority. No President is stupid enough to veto any bill that passes Congress with a veto-proof majority. For another thing, this is exactly the same practice we have used in every war we have ever fought. POWs are arrested and detained, without trial, for an indefinite period (typically until after the war is over).
Looked like the old guy wanted to be left the hell alone myself. Some partisan hack comes around bugging me on my day off with a mic and camera I'd tell him to go to hell. Guy showed some restraint IMO.
What are you talking about, they guy asked him if he would answer a few questions and the guy said yes. This is your typical Obama supporter, totally clueless, just like their leader.
This is just another partisan hack who has never bothered even read NDAA, and I am not referring to the Obama supporter being interviewed. For an Obama supporter the interviewee was incredibly tolerant. I would not be as tolerant in a similar situation.
For one thing the moron interviewer did not know that NDAA passed Congress with a veto-proof majority. No President is stupid enough to veto any bill that passes Congress with a veto-proof majority. For another thing, this is exactly the same practice we have used in every war we have ever fought. POWs are arrested and detained, without trial, for an indefinite period (typically until after the war is over).
The act authorizes the military in Title X, Subtitle D, entitled “Counter-Terrorism,” for the first time in more than 200 years, to carry out domestic policing. With this bill, which will take effect March 3, the military can indefinitely detain without trial any U.S. citizen deemed to be a terrorist or an accessory to terrorism. And suspects can be shipped by the military to our offshore penal colony in Guantanamo Bay and kept there until “the end of hostilities.” It is a catastrophic blow to civil liberties. Chris Hedges: Why I’m Suing Barack Obama - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig
until the end of hostilities? Like that's going to happen.
Who are terrorists? anybody they say they are, including Ron Paul supporters, militias, people that are buying survival food, tea party, associating with anti-government types - whatever happened to freedom of association?
It's not just Obama and his supporters, Romney likes this bill too.
The act authorizes the military in Title X, Subtitle D, entitled “Counter-Terrorism,” for the first time in more than 200 years, to carry out domestic policing.
Not true. The military was used to enforce domestic law until Congress enacted the Posse Comitatus Act in 1878. Congress further modified the Posse Comitatus Act in 1980 to allow the military to enforce federal drug laws. Lastly, Congress modified the Posse Comitatus Act in 2007 to allow the military to be used to enforce domestic law in the event of an emergency, natural disaster, or terrorist attack.
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With this bill, which will take effect March 3, the military can indefinitely detain without trial any U.S. citizen deemed to be a terrorist or an accessory to terrorism.
Incorrect, again. Only those members of al Qaeda or the Taliban, with whom we are at war, can be arrested and detained without charge, whether they are US citizens or not. Just as we have done in every war we have ever fought.
It is in accordance with the Fifth Amendment. You might try reading it sometime.
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until the end of hostilities? Like that's going to happen.
It will happen when Congress repeals Public Law 107-40.
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Who are terrorists? anybody they say they are, including Ron Paul supporters, militias, people that are buying survival food, tea party, associating with anti-government types - whatever happened to freedom of association?
The terrorists are members of al Qaeda and the Taliban, and just like with Jose Padilla, they have to prove before a federal judge (three judges in Padilla's case) that they are members of those terrorist organizations and a threat to public safety.
If you want to associate with al Qaeda and the Taliban terrorists, be my guest. But do not complain when you are given a furnished cell in GITMO or taken out by a drone.
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It's not just Obama and his supporters, Romney likes this bill too.
Obama had no choice in the matter, Congress passed NDAA with a veto-proof majority. Of course Romney supports the bill, as do I. As would any rational individual, since this is exactly how we have done things for over 200 years.
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