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Old 07-09-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I didn't say anything about not needing health care reform, people are talking about this coverage until they are 26 as if they are getting it for "free", the person would need to be paying for a family plan for the offspring to be covered in the first place, the coverage is extended to their 26th birthday instead of 21st or 23rd.

Every job I have had included Health Insurance, including my current one, which I have had for almost six years.

Where part of the problem lies in the people that say "I don't need Health Insurance" then they get sick and can't pay the bill.
http://epionline.org/studies/oneill_06-2009.pdf

Lots of stats about the voluntarily uninsured in the above. The data is from 2008, but I doubt things have changed that much. The VUs tend to be young, single, childless males. Big surprise, huh?
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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What do you expect from the blaze?
Oh sure, those cruds at the Blaze put those words in the mouths of the young socialists they interviewed. I guess you didn't notice that the words sure fit what the mouths of the kids were forming. You didn't fail to watch the video, did you?

Your answer is surely what one could expect from you.

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Of course. It was actually a good employer who had a customer service department that went overboard to get customers anything they wanted. We also donated generously to various charities. Just part-time, and once I got my first professional job I left, but stayed friends with many for years.

Our Divison VP wanted me to go to corp in a professional role fitting my degree, but it was too far away, in a part of my home state I had no desire to live in.
<shrug> To each their own, of course, but of there is one industry that pretty much everybody agrees deserved to be legislated out of existence, it was telemarketers. The Do Not Call list was one sound legislative initiative that I gladly credit the GWB administration with.

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Many neo-progressives here in the triangle freely admit to working for Cisco, IBM, Glaxo and other "evil" corporations and eagerly buying "evil" Apple products. Why not?
I don't know where those "evil"quotes come from, but never mind - I would have thought it generally agreed that telemarketers are a couple of rungs below door-to-door insurance salesmen.

Different strokes, I guess.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Where did you get that from?
Obvious conclusion from beliefs you presented.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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And one of its most ardent, loyal followers.


You're right, unlike absolutely no increase in insurance costs previously. You see, I can be about as clueless as the rest of them.
I see the Ghost is willing to shoot off his mouth although he didn't watch the video. If you had watched it you would have know what those college age kids were saying about Obamacare. Someone has misled them and it sure wasn't any Republicans.

Attack that messenger with no words about the message, Ghost. That is just what Alinsky said would work.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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There is nothing in the health care law that says it will be free. Doctors, nurses, and hospital employees will continue to be paid as usual. [MOD CUT/personal attack]
Dr's get a pittance from the GOV for Medicaid/Medicare patients most Dr's consider those free which is why many dr.'s are not taking those anymore.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I see the Ghost is willing to shoot off his mouth although he didn't watch the video. If you had watched it you would have know what those college age kids were saying about Obamacare. Someone has misled them and it sure wasn't any Republicans.

Attack that messenger with no words about the message, Ghost. That is just what Alinsky said would work.
I think you do a better job Roy, than "the Blaze" could ever do on your own. I like to see you talk, but your insistence of making people visit "the Blaze" gets in the way.

So, all you have for this thread is to make people watch the video? Or, do you actually have something to debate? If you do, bring it on! If you don't... then why bother?

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Dr's get a pittance from the GOV for Medicaid/Medicare patients most Dr's consider those free which is why many dr.'s are not taking those anymore.
And how much do you think the government should spend on Medicare?
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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http://epionline.org/studies/oneill_06-2009.pdf

Lots of stats about the voluntarily uninsured in the above. The data is from 2008, but I doubt things have changed that much. The VUs tend to be young, single, childless males. Big surprise, huh?
And they are the healthiest group. This is nothing out of the norm.
These are the ones labeled "freeloaders" ? The ones that don't use the system ?
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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http://epionline.org/studies/oneill_06-2009.pdf

Lots of stats about the voluntarily uninsured in the above. The data is from 2008, but I doubt things have changed that much. The VUs tend to be young, single, childless males. Big surprise, huh?
i stopped reading your link when I saw that they showed such a large number of people over 65 who were uninsured. We all have Medicare although it doesn't cover everything so we need to have that Medigap stuff which runs a lot higher than most people not in the Medicare group have any idea about. However, I don't like to see that age group showed as not having insurance.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And they are the healthiest group. This is nothing out of the norm.
These are the ones labeled "freeloaders" ? The ones that don't use the system ?
The term was "free riders"...

"Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar."
- Mitt Romney, June 2009
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