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And they are the healthiest group. This is nothing out of the norm.
These are the ones labeled "freeloaders" ? The ones that don't use the system ?
Who says they don't use the system? They may not use it as much as I do at my age, and they don't use it as much as their female age cohorts who are the ones having babies and actually responsible for family planning, but it's not that they don't use the health care system at all. As Dane points out, look at the population of those trauma wards. And they're not all there from auto accidents that car insurance partially pays for. They're there b/c of all the "extreme" and not so extreme sports that they do w/o sometimes even learning how to do them properly, etc. And also, young males do get cancer, kidney stones, communicable diseases, etc.
I was convinced that many of the 18 - 30 year old group wouldn't vote this year and all of a sudden I saw this video of Obamacare supporters being interviewed outside the Supreme Court building before the final decision came out. After watching that bunch of obviously students, in age, I told my 31 year old son what they had said and all he could say was that they must think anything that others have to pay for is free. It is good to watch people like this talk so you can see how Obamacare has "bought" many votes from the lack of understanding of so many people who love that word, free.
or I'd settle for sign a waiver allowing hospitals to either refuse them, or go for payment with no Statute of Limitations.
Keep in mind that for the most part we are not talking about people who can not afford it. Medicaid takes care of the poorest folks. It is people who choose not to pay for coverage so they can buy something else.
It may also be illegal immigrants that do not get coverage.
Who says they don't use the system? They may not use it as much as I do at my age, and they don't use it as much as their female age cohorts who are the ones having babies and actually responsible for family planning, but it's not that they don't use the health care system at all. As Dane points out, look at the population of those trauma wards. And they're not all there from auto accidents that car insurance partially pays for. They're there b/c of all the "extreme" and not so extreme sports that they do w/o sometimes even learning how to do them properly, etc. And also, young males do get cancer, kidney stones, communicable diseases, etc.
When I was 26 I was a healthy young man that should not have spent any money on health insurance. However as a recent 'Nam veteran, I realized life is fragile and health can be fleeting. Accordingly I stayed a part time graduate student to take advantage of the relatively low cost school HI and well as continue my studies. I guessed right as I had appendicitis that required an operation. The insurance paid for most of the cost. If I had to take out a loan to pay for it I would have been in real financial trouble. If I had refused because I could not afford the operation I would have been dead. The fact that I had not real choice is what removes health care from an open market system. Without a competitive open market the system should be government owned.
I do not agree with either of the health insurance schemes because they do not include cost controls on the private sector insurance companies or on the care providers. A completely publicly owned Universal Health Care system would. Under this system doctors could still make six figure incomes but insurance executives would not make eight figure paychecks..
The students and most other people realize the health care is not free and never has been. They consider private sector health insurance and care are charging far more then cost and are making excessive profits at the public expense. People also consider excluding people with existing conditions to be inhumane and cruel. My objection to the new system is it does not include cost controls on the entire health care system.
Keep in mind that for the most part we are not talking about people who can not afford it. Medicaid takes care of the poorest folks. It is people who choose not to pay for coverage so they can buy something else.
It may also be illegal immigrants that do not get coverage.
I know, and that is why hospitals need the ability to collect the expense without being limited by statute. I'd prefer it carry the same weight as student loans, allowing the IRS to garnish wages if needed to insure they are paid in full.
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or I'd settle for sign a waiver allowing hospitals to either refuse them, or go for payment with no Statute of Limitations.
