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Your enthnocentricity, your constant repetition of the same argument, like a maniacal litany, the many posts of different pics of, in your opinion, notable Cubans over and over again, and your ignorance of facts that disprove your delusional representation of Cubans, despite links to valid documentation, are more than enough evidence that your mind is too muddled for sound reasoning and rational discussion.
Posting it twice was a computer glitch. It wasn't done for some ulterior motive [whatever that could be?] if that's what you're implying. If the best that you can do is point out some glitch, your brain must be getting moldy behind that computer as you spend hours attacking Cubans on different forums of City Data. Go outside, get some sun, stretch your legs. It might do you some good.
Regarding the other part of your reply, it's not even worth a response. It's nothing more than juvenile baiting and blowing off hot steam, because you're so bitter. You are proof positive that some people do not mature mentally despite being advanced in age. So sad. Quel Dommage.
Posting it twice was a computer glitch. It wasn't done for some ulterior motive [whatever that could be?] if that's what you're implying. If the best that you can do is point out some glitch, your brain must be getting moldy behind that computer as you spend hours attacking Cubans on different forums of City Data. Go outside, get some sun, stretch your legs. It might do you some good.
Regarding the other part of your reply, it's not even worth a response. It's nothing more than juvenile baiting and blowing off hot steam, because you're so bitter. You are proof positive that some people do not mature mentally despite being advanced in age. So sad. Quel Dommage.
OMG! How is it possible that you fail to recognize yourself??
You wish that ALL immigrants USA receives were like Cubans. USA is taken the best of thegenetic pool from Cuba. Cuba itself was created from a world genetic pool, notonly from Spain as people believe. Those immigrants lied to stay in Cuba backthem, and Cuba let them stay, as Cuba had an immigration policy from late 1800up to 1950’s.
Cuba was among the top 2-3 countries in latinoamerica back in 1959. The level ofeducation in Cuba is higher that many of the latinoamerican counter parts. For instance, there are more med schools in Cuba (11 millions) nowadays than inSouth Africa (50 millions) (I know SA is not in LA, but it is a good example), and the Universities in Cuba are tuff to students. You have to put things in perspective. Cuba isa tiny island, but despite so, it has a world class music. In case you don’tknow: son cubano (commercially called salsa), cha-cha-cha, mambo, guanguanco,rumba, timba, bolero, danzon, and many others. Cuba has el ballet nacional de cuba,a unique world class ballet, whose former dancers are first dancers in the restof the other (“less acclaimed”) dancing ballets (Royal London ballet, Boston,San Francisco, etc). Cubans have now 5 professional world boxing champions,check the USA-baseball teams to see howgood Cubans tare doing here now, many researchers (e.g. the one who discovered who wasthe transmitter of the yellow fever), and many others. Among these people, USAis taking the best.
The Mexicans, who get into USA, are NOT the best from Mexico. If case you don’tknow, the public (the best there) Universities in Mexico are free of charge, sothose that get into, are good. How many of the illegal Mexicans have Universitydegrees? How many PR (those who came to USA from the 40’s) were collegegraduated? The gene pool of people is important. Those with University degree,are very keen that their kids follow the same path, so those new generationsare successful. That is the key of the Cuba success, which is cementing theirpower. It is not about the quantity but about the quality. There are few jewsin USA compared to Mexicans, but who are most influential? This is the case ofthe Cubans, which are sometimes called “los judios del caribe”.
There are alot of lies about the “help” Cubans receive. There is no help of scholarships, specialloans, or anything like that. Cubans in general dislike help, as help resemblesthem communism. The help paralyze people, make them dependent, something everyCuban knows the outcome of that: NO success. Cubans come to USA “to eat theworld” (=comerse el mundo) by their own. The others who complain about it arethose after the “help”. Cubans in general don’t see themselves as victims, butsee USA as a land where their faiths are in their hands. So what the hell toget help? In addition, the visas given in Cuba to Cubans (about 20 000/year)are to those who have the possibility to contribute to USA, so once again, USAis handpicking and getting the best of the Cuba’s gene pool. It is the reverseas the “standard” immigration you see elsewhere. Not surprise Cubans are so successfulin USA.
Instead of focusing on envy the Cuban’s achievements, and this and that, better to worryabout other groups, who are a threat to USA security.
In case youdon’t know, it is said that Salvadoreños have surpassed the Cubans when itcomes to among of people here, many illegals. The point is that it is unknownhow many of them are part of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13),who are classified as the worse threat to USA security, just second afterAl-Quaida. The MS-13 are getting members from other people from Central American countries.
Regarding the word of “assimilation”: That is a nice word which covers discrimination, humiliation,negation, etc to the new comers. People get “assimilated” when they are bulliedby the majority, so they repress their heritage, etc. Florida is basically aredneck state, so what the hells you are going to let the rednecks todiscriminate you (as they did at the beginning to Cubans) until Cubans took mattersin their own hand, and eventually, the best gene pool won, the Cubans
My vote goes to the Hispano community of New Mexico who've been here for over 400 years. It's probably the only state who's state culture is dominated by Hispanic elements.
Seems to me that Cubans are more in tune with 'traditional' American virtues than other Hispanics.
Sure seems strange that thousands of Cubans living in Miami don't' speak any English although they have lived here for decades. They sit in Little Havana speaking Spanish and playing Cuban board games and eating Cuban food like they never left their homeland.
How is expecting people that reside here to assimilate into our dominant culture and language, discrimination among other idiotic claims? No one is suppressing anyone from practicing their native language/culture at home for one thing. It is just respectful to speak the language of this country when out in public if one knows how to. I wouldn't dream of living in another country and not assimilating to them rather than the other way around.
New Mexicans and Cubans of Hispanic decent are a good example of non-assimilation in our country. If entire states want to emulate another country then perhaps they need to secede from the union.
^ If New Mexico's state culture falls outside of the bounds of mainstream American culture, than so does Utah's and the states of the American south; so are you going to tell them that they need to get with the program and assimilate into mainstream American culture?
^ If New Mexico's state culture falls outside of the bounds of mainstream American culture, than so does Utah's and the states of the American south; so are you going to tell them that they need to get with the program and assimilate into mainstream American culture?
Yes, I think that they should but in today's PC world no one is expected to do that. I guess division is preferred over unity.
My vote goes to the Hispano community of New Mexico who've been here for over 400 years. It's probably the only state who's state culture is dominated by Hispanic elements.
Red or green?
I might go with them also, you meet people with Spanish last names who speak only English and have no ties to any foreign nation.
You wish that ALL immigrants USA receives were like Cubans. USA is taken the best of thegenetic pool from Cuba. Cuba itself was created from a world genetic pool, notonly from Spain as people believe. Those immigrants lied to stay in Cuba backthem, and Cuba let them stay, as Cuba had an immigration policy from late 1800up to 1950’s.
Cuba was among the top 2-3 countries in latinoamerica back in 1959. The level ofeducation in Cuba is higher that many of the latinoamerican counter parts. For instance, there are more med schools in Cuba (11 millions) nowadays than inSouth Africa (50 millions) (I know SA is not in LA, but it is a good example), and the Universities in Cuba are tuff to students. You have to put things in perspective. Cuba isa tiny island, but despite so, it has a world class music. In case you don’tknow: son cubano (commercially called salsa), cha-cha-cha, mambo, guanguanco,rumba, timba, bolero, danzon, and many others. Cuba has el ballet nacional de cuba,a unique world class ballet, whose former dancers are first dancers in the restof the other (“less acclaimed”) dancing ballets (Royal London ballet, Boston,San Francisco, etc). Cubans have now 5 professional world boxing champions,check the USA-baseball teams to see howgood Cubans tare doing here now, many researchers (e.g. the one who discovered who wasthe transmitter of the yellow fever), and many others. Among these people, USAis taking the best.
The Mexicans, who get into USA, are NOT the best from Mexico. If case you don’tknow, the public (the best there) Universities in Mexico are free of charge, sothose that get into, are good. How many of the illegal Mexicans have Universitydegrees? How many PR (those who came to USA from the 40’s) were collegegraduated? The gene pool of people is important. Those with University degree,are very keen that their kids follow the same path, so those new generationsare successful. That is the key of the Cuba success, which is cementing theirpower. It is not about the quantity but about the quality. There are few jewsin USA compared to Mexicans, but who are most influential? This is the case ofthe Cubans, which are sometimes called “los judios del caribe”.
There are alot of lies about the “help” Cubans receive. There is no help of scholarships, specialloans, or anything like that. Cubans in general dislike help, as help resemblesthem communism. The help paralyze people, make them dependent, something everyCuban knows the outcome of that: NO success. Cubans come to USA “to eat theworld” (=comerse el mundo) by their own. The others who complain about it arethose after the “help”. Cubans in general don’t see themselves as victims, butsee USA as a land where their faiths are in their hands. So what the hell toget help? In addition, the visas given in Cuba to Cubans (about 20 000/year)are to those who have the possibility to contribute to USA, so once again, USAis handpicking and getting the best of the Cuba’s gene pool. It is the reverseas the “standard” immigration you see elsewhere. Not surprise Cubans are so successfulin USA.
Instead of focusing on envy the Cuban’s achievements, and this and that, better to worryabout other groups, who are a threat to USA security.
In case youdon’t know, it is said that Salvadoreños have surpassed the Cubans when itcomes to among of people here, many illegals. The point is that it is unknownhow many of them are part of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13),who are classified as the worse threat to USA security, just second afterAl-Quaida. The MS-13 are getting members from other people from Central American countries.
Regarding the word of “assimilation”: That is a nice word which covers discrimination, humiliation,negation, etc to the new comers. People get “assimilated” when they are bulliedby the majority, so they repress their heritage, etc. Florida is basically aredneck state, so what the hells you are going to let the rednecks todiscriminate you (as they did at the beginning to Cubans) until Cubans took mattersin their own hand, and eventually, the best gene pool won, the Cubans
You omitted to mention the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 which allows Cubans to become permanent residents (1 year of being physically present). That actually is a BIG help that has hastened the integration of Cubans into US society and being able to become citizens faster and gain political power (especially in South Florida).
I concur that the Cubans coming into the US have generally higher levels of education - which is also a very important factor in their success in getting into the US mainstream.
The Mexicans with higher education generally stay in the country. The ones that immigrate to el Norte do so out of necessity - no economic prospects in the villages, for example.
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