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Old 07-29-2012, 02:44 AM
 
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Did you pervs miss the entire 20,000 years? People were always raising children in a family. A child needs a masculine and feminine role model. Yes, Full family is always better.
And what constituted a 'family' throughout human history?

Sociology/Anthropology is not your thing is it?


And what's with the 'you pervs' label you keep flinging about?

 
Old 07-29-2012, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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And why are child protection services so busy?

And why are jails so full?

And why are so many children being sexually abused each year?

And why are there 1.3 women forcibly raped each minute in the US?
Very interesting question.

Let's ask the "normal" people to explain that one.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 03:15 AM
 
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Nature simply found a way of disposing of undesirable genetic material: it created gays. As having no propensity to procreate gays are not spreading their genetic code. Cruel yet effective way of dealing with genetic garbage, isn't it?
Pretty nasty stuff from a so-called 'Christian'.

Gay and lesbian people are physically capable of having of children. They could close their eyes and put up with being uncomfortable for 2 minutes and 'do the deed' if they had to. Throughout history, women and girls who were forced to marry some old coot or nasty brute have had to endure 'legal' rape within 'marriage'.

If just 'procreating' is the only purpose of humans, why did humans even bother to leave the caves or invent things, or create music and art, or create religions or build cities, or start schools and universities etc?

Any fertile teen can get another fertile teen pregnant in 30 seconds in the back seat of daddy's car. It's not rocket science and doesn't take intelligence or hard work.

Other people were contributing to society in a much more substantial way.

People like Alexander the Great, Leonardo Da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Sir Francis Bacon, Tchaikosky, Rachmaninov, Alan Turing, Tennesse Williams, Gertrude Stein, Margaret Fuller, Hans Christian Andersen, Cole Porter and many many more.


What have you contributed to society lately other buying tissues and hand lotion by the truckload?
 
Old 07-29-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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Please provide some biblical quotations for this.

Then we can discuss it.
Romans 1. Read the WHOLE letter honestly with an open mind, not just the couple of verses the anti-gay brigade quote out of context.

Especially the previous verses where he makes it obvious the context is idolatrous worshipping practices. He is referring to people who had converted to his new religion and 'knew God' but then went back to their ways of worshipping their old pagan gods and goddesses:

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Then read Acts to find out Paul's purported travels and where he wrote his first letter to the Romans from.

Then read some history books on 1st century Corinth/Rome and the pagan cults at that time that Paul would have been exposed to.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 05:30 AM
 
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what a load of BS!

Paul was referring here to how men had become corrupted and turned away from God.

You are putting your own gay spin on it (as usual) to try and make it fit your agenda.

utter tosh!

Try again.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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You have incredibly naive and uneducated views on family/househould structures throughout human history if you think a 'nuclear' family of dad, mom and their biological kids living alone together in one house was (or is) always the predominant model.

There have been all sorts of 'family' living arrangements throughout human history. The extended family, kinship groups, communal living, polygamy, patriclocality etc etc were very common in many cultures.

Nuclear Families - JRank Articles

http://family.jrank.org/pages/493/Family-History.html

You reduce humans down to a basic animal level of reproduction. Not ALL humans need to reproduce for the human race to survive. In fact that would be disastrous.


Humans are far more than just dumb reproducing animals. (well most of us anyway....)
You only say thar because you gay and reproduction is not your priority.
I told you already that homosexuality is simply a way in which mother nature removes degenerate DNA from the the gene pool: it simply takes away your incentive to procreate. Kind of like psychological castration.

From thevperspective of evolution or the entire species: homosexuals are useless. Don't kid yourself you are still an animal: you have to eat, drink and sleep as every other animal. It is just the need to procreate that has been taken away from you. You are a dead end.

And yes, statistically nuclear family has been dominant in the past five thousand years. Living arrangements don't have anything to do with social structure.

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Old 07-29-2012, 07:19 AM
 
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You mean what he wrote about the orgiastic practices used by worshippers who reverted back to their pagan fertility cults in Romans 1?

Heterosexual people getting involved in ritual sex orgies in pagan temples (including same-gender sex acts) to worship their old fertility gods? Nothing to do with 21st century gays and lesbians or homosexuality.

Context is everything.

Where do you think Paul wrote that letter from? Corinth. What century was it? The 1st.
What do you think he saw about him every day in Corinth? Temples dedicated to fertility goddesses like Aphrodite, full of male and female cult temple prostitutes.

More gay propaganda ? How about we look at prisons as an example of gay activities and homosexual influence on society?

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Old 07-29-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: TX
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More gay propaganda ?
Yes, rebel12, every sort of education is "gay propaganda"
 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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what a load of BS!

Paul was referring here to how men had become corrupted and turned away from God.

You are putting your own gay spin on it (as usual) to try and make it fit your agenda.

utter tosh!

Try again.
So you just ignore the previous verses, hence ignore the idolatrous context? You ignore the context of the culture in which Paul wrote?

Typical dishonest cherry picker.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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More gay propaganda ? How about we look at prisons as an example of gay activities and homosexual influence on society?
seriously? "gay" sex in prison is about power and practiced by straights. the amount of misinformation and homophobic replies in this thread is absurd.

children should be raised by a parent(s) that love and support them.

gripe all you like about dead end sexuality, it is the same sexuality tons of hetros participate in. a news flash for ya lots of straights don't want children.
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