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Old 07-12-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Dude, he invented the dang internet!
Yeah, we have to give him credit for that.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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The Anderegg study in PNAS. We've had this conversation before, Coalman.
You'd agree then there is certainly some serious issues involved with that number , yes?
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why does every conservative seem to believe in all manner of stupid conspiracy theories? Every one of which always runs counter to reality and one simple application of Occam's Razor should be enough for a halfway intelligent person to realize they've gone into tin foil hat territory.
For one, the earth's climate and weather pattern's are always changing, for another, we just came out of the LIA (Little Ice-Age) which lasted from about 150o and ended around 1910. BTW, we are only a degree or so this side of falling back into that LIA. Preceding that LIA was the Medieval Warm Period but you want us to believe the earth warmed in the Medieval Warm Period, then cooled into the LIA. You AGW enthusiasts would like us to believe that suddenly, the very slight warming that brought us out of the LIA was caused by man-induced CO2?

Should we still be living in the LIA??? Should we be stuck in the era that gave us famine, the black plague, and the year without a summer?
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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No tin foil hat required:

If you think you're getting screwed now you haven't seen anything yet when the product is a piece of paper where the value is set by the government.

Like anything else, follow the $$$. I wonder just how many of those web sites propagandizing AGW are tied to carbon trading schemes, "green power" or any other scam intended to capitalize on exploding energy costs? Given the shear number of scams and fraud being revealed, I wonder if there is ANY actual science behind the AGW movement. It feels dirty, like dealing with a particularly sleezy used car dealership.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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Like anything else, follow the $$$. I wonder just how many of those web sites propagandizing AGW are tied to carbon trading schemes, "green power" or any other scam intended to capitolize on exploding energy costs? Given the shear number of scams and fraud being revealed, I wonder if there is ANY actual science behind the AGW movement. It feels dirty, like dealing with a particularly sleezy used car dealership.
Carbon Trading is like the housing bubble on crack and will make the fossil companies look generous in comparison. The market for this piece of paper will be created and influenced solely by government legislation. Let's repeat that, bankers will be selling a piece of paper where the value is derived from government legislation.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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As I've stated before.........the only real tangible thing in the whole global warming fiasco is the 'Kaching' effect discovered by Algore.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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As I've stated before.........the only real tangible thing in the whole global warming fiasco is the 'Kaching' effect discovered by Algore.
LOL

When Gore left office in 2000 he was worth about $400,000, now he is worth over one hundred million... ka-ching
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: California
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As I've stated before.........the only real tangible thing in the whole global warming fiasco is the 'Kaching' effect discovered by Algore.
'Kaching' That is priceless. Absolutely priceless..
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:06 PM
 
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Al Gore is still mad he didn't become a billionaire by doing nothing but selling snake oil...
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I don't believe in creationism... but I suspect you know more about global warming... did you know CO2 traps in heat... did you know that trapped heat will actually cool a planet after CO2 has been trapped for decades, you think we would be a desert by now... I think it is funny that you "believe" in global warming but at the same time mock those who believe in "creationism"... I suppose back then religious factions would fight one another because of their beliefs... funny how that still exists today... you would think people got smarter over time...
Global warming is a religion to these folks. You know how people get when you question their religion.
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