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Old 09-22-2013, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Originally Posted by LortiQU View Post
Yes but that's not crossdressing
Perhaps I was being a bit facetious, I'm known for doing that here, and elsewhere.

But, it's still not socially acceptable, people view CD's and transgendered persons with animosity, for whatever reasons that suit them. It doesn't however bother me at all. Wear what you want, it doesn't affect me at all.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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It's not socially acceptable - yet.

Men wear kilts (skirts) in Scotland, don't they?

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Men of Europe used to all wear skirts. Roman legionaries too. But Roman civilian men mainly wore togas. But skirts were the primary article of dress for men.

I can thank reading a book on military history written by some retired U.S. Army officer I think, that I found that out and that men of Europe adopted wearing trousers from the nomadic horse men of the East like the Scythians.

Personally, I think in general, especially in heavily forested areas, trousers are better for combat. Skirts leave the testicles to exposed (branches, brush etc.).

Skirts are more hygienic for the male groin region during hot and especially humid days I think. Just like airing your feet and toes by taking them out of shoes.

Cross dressing has to do with gender identity though. And 9 time of 10 a person wants to dress in the articles of clothing associated with the opposite sex because they want to identify with or as that sex.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Men of Europe used to all wear skirts. Roman legionaries too. But Roman civilian men mainly wore togas. But skirts were the primary article of dress for men.

I can thank reading a book on military history written by some retired U.S. Army officer I think, that I found that out and that men of Europe adopted wearing trousers from the nomadic horse men of the East like the Scythians.

Personally, I think in general, especially in heavily forested areas, trousers are better for combat. Skirts leave the testicles to exposed (branches, brush etc.).

Skirts are more hygienic for the male groin region during hot and especially humid days I think. Just like airing your feet and toes by taking them out of shoes.

Cross dressing has to do with gender identity though. And 9 time of 10 a person wants to dress in the articles of clothing associated with the opposite sex because they want to identify with or as that sex.
Well, I knew most of what your post informs, I won't touch on the subject any further because I believe you've covered all the bases.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: On the edge of the universe
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I don't get the problem with crossdressing either. I do it on occasion in private and don't see the big deal. People do it all the time and I'm sure that a lot of people do far worse stuff in their private lives besides crossdressing!

As far as the physical threats go, I'd love to see all these wannabe 'warriors' and 'Marines' try and mess with me for crossdressing. Anyone who threatens me is going to get ripped to pieces...if you threaten someone you better hope you can overpower me or outlast me because I won't care who you are or how many of you there are.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:42 PM
 
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Men of Europe used to all wear skirts. Roman legionaries too. But Roman civilian men mainly wore togas. But skirts were the primary article of dress for men.

I can thank reading a book on military history written by some retired U.S. Army officer I think, that I found that out and that men of Europe adopted wearing trousers from the nomadic horse men of the East like the Scythians.

Personally, I think in general, especially in heavily forested areas, trousers are better for combat. Skirts leave the testicles to exposed (branches, brush etc.).

Skirts are more hygienic for the male groin region during hot and especially humid days I think. Just like airing your feet and toes by taking them out of shoes.

Cross dressing has to do with gender identity though. And 9 time of 10 a person wants to dress in the articles of clothing associated with the opposite sex because they want to identify with or as that sex.
Not quite. Crossdressing has nothing to do with gender identity. Male crossdressers know they are men. There are different reasons for men to crossdress. On the other hand, transsexuals have to do with gender identity. Crossdressers do not want to change their gender or sex. Transsexuals want to change their sex. Transsexuals don't have to change their gender because they are already the gender they desire, they just want to change the outside to coincide with the inside. And by the way, people get confused with the word transgender. Some people use the owrd transgender to mean transsexual. That is inaccurate. Transgender is an umbrella term used to include crossdressers, transsexuals and everything in between. People that want to have a sex change are transsexuals. Crossdressers only dress in the opposite sex temporarally. They have no desire to have a sex change operation and they are happy being what they are born as. People don't research enough to understand things.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:46 PM
 
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I don't get the problem with crossdressing either. I do it on occasion in private and don't see the big deal. People do it all the time and I'm sure that a lot of people do far worse stuff in their private lives besides crossdressing!

As far as the physical threats go, I'd love to see all these wannabe 'warriors' and 'Marines' try and mess with me for crossdressing. Anyone who threatens me is going to get ripped to pieces...if you threaten someone you better hope you can overpower me or outlast me because I won't care who you are or how many of you there are.
Yeah see, there are varying degrees of crossdressing. Like you, some only do it in the privacy of their own home and some do it in public and hope to be recognized as the opposite gender. I have a problem when you said, "People do it all the time and I'm sure that a lot of people do far worse stuff in their private lives besides crossdressing!" When you said, "worse" you make it sound as if there is something wrong with crossdressing. It's not bad at all. You aren't hurting anyone and you are not hurting anyone else. Even the crossdressers that go out in public are not hurting anyone. It really shouldn't be a big deal but people make it a big deal because they just have that hate in them.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Not quite. Crossdressing has nothing to do with gender identity. Male crossdressers know they are men. There are different reasons for men to crossdress. On the other hand, transsexuals have to do with gender identity. Crossdressers do not want to change their gender or sex. Transsexuals want to change their sex. Transsexuals don't have to change their gender because they are already the gender they desire, they just want to change the outside to coincide with the inside. And by the way, people get confused with the word transgender. Some people use the owrd transgender to mean transsexual. That is inaccurate. Transgender is an umbrella term used to include crossdressers, transsexuals and everything in between. People that want to have a sex change are transsexuals. Crossdressers only dress in the opposite sex temporarally. They have no desire to have a sex change operation and they are happy being what they are born as. People don't research enough to understand things.
Eh... cross dressing does have to do with "gender."

Cross dressing is not a sex change but cross dressing involves gender identification. Whether it's done a few minutes or few hours is irrelevant.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:32 AM
 
Location: TX
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Did you just come in on a shuttle from the '50's?
Someone from the 50's would not regard dresses and skirts (in general) as "dumb". Men from that era expected women to wear them, and of course women from that era felt obliged to do so... almost constantly.

I stand by what I said. There's no even semi-logical explanation for a man to wear a dress or skirt outside the theater if he's not at least one who "feels like they are a woman" and would like to regarded as such.
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