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Old 07-21-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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You guessed wrong. Equality is when you are paid for what you've done (multiplied by an education coefficient - if you follow Marxist thinking or ideolody).

E.g. Bill Gates should have earned quite a few bucks for his services, but nowhere near his billions - that's money earned by thousands of Microsoft's employees and their supporters (people of countries where Microsoft's offices are).
your ideology destroys the incentive to create, this is undeniable, you only have to look at history to see how countries have faired that have tried to implement this.

Millions of people dying from lack of food, I guess that is a good result for you? At least no one was exploited......

 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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I really love Obama! Not as a leader (all hope is long gone), but because he trolled conservatives so wonderfully
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so you find the man who promotes communism to be amusing?
Yeah let's all have a great on-line Facebook laugh while the U.S. goes down the tubes. Glad to see the destruction of a great nation through constant 24/7 disinformation amuses him so much.

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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The lust, desire and greed for money has become a form of worship. Many people measure their self worth based upon what they have. For the love/worship of money people have lied, killed, cheated, stolen and committed other horrendous crimes. Many have committed suicide when they lost their wealth.

Capitalism in its true form is not vulture capitalism and that is what it has morphed into in many instances.
I at least partially agree with what you've said above, but the problem lies with culture and values, not an economic system.

Would you say that people where more or less greedy/lustful ect a 100 years ago when the U.S. was much more capitalistic?
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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Private business could do it more efficiently.
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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LOL yeah, government has consistently shown how efficient it has been with money...
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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I at least partially agree with what you've said above, but the problem lies with culture and values, not an economic system.

Would you say that people where more or less greedy/lustful ect a 100 years ago when the U.S. was much more capitalistic?
We are repeating history now with another Gilded Age...

America's New Gilded Age - Decline of the Empire
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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Why are you repeating a lie? It's already been debunked. Do you not get embarrassed by coming off ignorant and stupid?
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Have you ever remodel a house????

First you tear down the old......then rebuild.
I've rebuilt lots of homes, I've never needed government to come do it..
 
Old 07-21-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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No, you are reading into the speech something that is NOT there and filling in the blanks with your own nonsense.

This is the transcript of that part of the speech:

What President Obama said was that a successful business depends upon the public infrastructure to be successful. The goods are shipped on public roads and use public airports; workers are educated at public expense; the internet was created by the government and Amazon.com couldn't have been started without it, etc. and that increasing taxes on people who can afford those taxes, so that we can fund a government that helps their success isn't such a bad thing.

Jack Gilchrist, who showed up in this Romney ad below, went on Covutto and agreed with everything President Obama said.

THIS IS THE ROMNEY AD:


Below is a must see, towards the middle of this video (at 3:35) below, Jack Gilchrist told Covutto that Obama's point was actually correct:

Lawrence O'Donnell Hits Team Romney for Latest Hack Job | Video Cafe
So now you think Obama will be reducing the deficit? From what, to what? Come on, you cant be this gullible..
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