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Old 07-16-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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Then when I lost everything I had because of cheap imports, it was the government that was losing the money with me!!??

Hey!!, When do I get my 50% back???

Come to think of if.... because it was me going in 7 day per week from 5 in the morning until 9 at night, trying to salvage the business...maybe I'm entitled to 80%...How about sending me my check?????


I tried giving this guy the benefit of the doubt...But like is said elsewhere by others...this guy (Obama) has not got a clue about business...He never really worked in a business.

And to be quite honest, this sounds like a pure communist mentality.....What a mistake this guy is as President...

I'll take Romney over him...Even if Romney did send some jobs overseas, he also created more jobs here....
I don't think there can be any more doubt left about Obama being a straight-out Communist. In fact he could have taught Stalin and Lenin and Castro a thing or two about Communism. No wonder Hugo Chavez looks up to him.

 
Old 07-16-2012, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Police State
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I honestly can't believe Obama would parrot long-since debunked collectivist drivel. Perhaps he's counting on unthinking people to lap it up?

Silly collectivist, every dollar the government spends had to be produced in the private sector first. I'm amused when an undistinguished professor who's other named profession was "community organizer" and has never run a business let alone worked in the private sector speaks authoritatively about economic affairs.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 01:02 AM
 
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If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
Um, irrelevant, unless that person was some type of bureaucrat.

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There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
Um, irrelevant, unless that person was some type of bureaucrat.

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Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.
And everyone, including non business owners, have access to it, so... irrelevant.

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Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
And everyone, including non business owners, have access to them, so... irrelevant.

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The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
And everyone, including non business owners, have access to it, so... irrelevant.

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The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
Yes, business owners benefit from roads and infrastructure, but this perfectly valid point has been perverted beyond recognition by lefties like Warren and Obama.

And business owners already do pay taxes, you all do realize that, right?

"You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there."

Basically, business owners don't work harder and smarter. They're just "lucky," or something.

Insulting, self righteous, childish garbage. What a scumbag.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 01:08 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Um, irrelevant, unless that person was some type of bureaucrat.



Um, irrelevant, unless that person was some type of bureaucrat.



And everyone, including non business owners, have access to it, so... irrelevant.



And everyone, including non business owners, have access to them, so... irrelevant.



And everyone, including non business owners, have access to it, so... irrelevant.



Yes, business owners benefit from roads and infrastructure, but this perfectly valid point has been perverted beyond recognition by lefties like Warren and Obama.

And business owners already do pay taxes, you all do realize that, right?

"You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there."

Basically, business owners don't work harder and smarter. They're just "lucky," or something.

Insulting, self righteous, childish garbage. What a scumbag.
Business owners thank you, clearly Obama, is trying to destroy business owners. This President is so full of himself, he needs to flush himself out?
 
Old 07-16-2012, 01:17 AM
 
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Only in the twisted lefty mind could the conclusion be reached that business owners are indebted to everyone else simply by virtue of the fact that they are business owners.

Business owners put in long hours. They take risk. And they serve the needs of others, or they go broke.

When something goes wrong in business, they suffer. They don't ask their employees and customers to pitch in to help them out. And they take on that burden with the perfectly reasonable expectation that they will be compensated for it. It's a high risk/investment and therefore high reward role in the marketplace for one to assume. As it should be.

What makes any non business owner think they have the right to insist on the safety and no-monetary/low-time investment of a regular job, then turn around and demand an extra piece from someone who has put in more than they have?

If you think the rich should pay more, then just say that. I don't even think that's an unsound position to take. But once you make it about business owner vs non business owner, you're full of crap, and/or pandering to the ignorant masses.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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So where's my check from IBM since I "made it happen?"

Don't forget what I did for Coca-Cola, Microsoft, General Electric, Boeing, etc. They owe me!

"Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!"
That right there sums up the Obots as well as anything could.

And for those who think we greedy capitalists don't get what he's saying, we get it. He's saying 'no man is an entity unto himself'. That doesn't make what he said more palatable. It's easy to see that it sure makes the entitlement crowd proud and pleased, though.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 03:47 AM
 
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If only we had someone who had a lot of private sector experience, like George W. Bush, then we would see the economy roarin...oh right.

Seriously, though why does this inane myth persist that Republicans (especially those who were businessmen) are somehow better at creating jobs. Democratic presidents have created tens of millions more jobs than Republicans over the past 100 years.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 03:54 AM
 
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I don't think there can be any more doubt left about Obama being a straight-out Communist. In fact he could have taught Stalin and Lenin and Castro a thing or two about Communism. No wonder Hugo Chavez looks up to him.
Communist? For this little speech? Really? I really can't tell if this is some troll or not, since it's so absurd.

What is the proof that Obama is anywhere near a socialist, let alone "communist" (and no, they're not the same thing). That he wants to revert to the tax rates that were under CLINTON (which if I recall, the economy was doing pretty swell)? How would you guys characterize previous REPUBLICAN presidents who had tax rates that Obama, with his supposed ultra leftist positions, will never even DREAM of coming near again? Such as Lord Reagan who had tax rates of 50% for 6 out of his 8 years. Nixon who had them at 70%. And Eisenhower, who made out with Joseph Stalin at a fricken 90% rate! Seriously, put that into perspective. 90% vs. 39% (what Obama has called for).

If Obama's a commie dictator, he's the most useless, inept one in history.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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If only we had someone who had a lot of private sector experience, like George W. Bush, then we would see the economy roarin...oh right.

Seriously, though why does this inane myth persist that Republicans (especially those who were businessmen) are somehow better at creating jobs. Democratic presidents have created tens of millions more jobs than Republicans over the past 100 years.
Name one job that a president has created, other than his staff and administration.

Clue: Presidents don't create jobs.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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If only we had someone who had a lot of private sector experience, like George W. Bush, then we would see the economy roarin...oh right.

Seriously, though why does this inane myth persist that Republicans (especially those who were businessmen) are somehow better at creating jobs. Democratic presidents have created tens of millions more jobs than Republicans over the past 100 years.
I was under the impression that this was about taxes?

Try reading the OP again.

And the 90% tax rate is a myth, as anyone who's actually done the research knows.
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