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Americans should be very proud of their political process and should want to protect it. Photo ID would help stop such insults as presented by the ACORN organization and others. See Anita Moncrief. Whatever the USA becomes, it should always be a representation of the people therein.
Americans should be very proud of their political process and should want to protect it. Photo ID would help stop such insults as presented by the ACORN organization and others. See Anita Moncrief. Whatever the USA becomes, it should always be a representation of the people therein.
The ACORN incident you reference is total republican fantasy. You reference that, you better be able to provide unbiased indisputeable links to the fraud you are speaking of. Not some right wing reference. The American voting process has been working just fine for many, many years.
I dont want to get too far off topic but if I were black here is one thing that would bother me... I saw a video of a fluffy wimpy white band playing a wimpy tune and eventually they were being followed by hordes of black youth in a dreamy neverland that makes you puke. Dont you guys get sick of being used to make wimpy white people "feel good"?
You are not black therefore statements like "If I were black" have absolutely zero validity.
It would be the same if posted "If I was white".
The premise of such "If I were black" assertions posits that you actually know, understand, or even care about how black people think, feel, or what they experience living in America on a day to day basis. The fact used such a premise was used clearly indicates that you don't.
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You are not black therefore statements like "If I were black" have absolutely zero validity.
It would be the same if posted "If I was white".
The premise of such "If I were black" assertions posits that you actually know, understand, or even care about how black people think, feel, or what they experience living in America on a day to day basis. The fact used such a premise was used clearly indicates that you don't.
Well perhaps youre black, can you answer my question?
Can you provide evidence of the black community who were upset about Cosby's statements? You say black community as if all black people were against what Bill Cosby said. Perhaps you meant to say that the Black underclass had a problem with it?....
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I do remember many articles from black pundits calling for BC's head for being an Uncle Tom, etc. Hopefully, your computer is up to date enough that you have google installed.
Just wanted to note that in response to her question, you did not provide evidence that black Americans have a distaste for Bill Cosby for the things he said.
We are both black. I can verify, being that after his 2004 comments (nearly 10 years ago I might add) that I went to an event where he spoke and it was standing room only and 98% black people in the audience and he received rounds and rounds of applause and lots of support. The majority of black people agreed with what he said. The media would have you believe we didn't, and a few black figures - Michael Eric Dyson is one I remember being critical, and some entertainers like Russell Simmons, but they are not reflective of all black Americans in this country. What you stated - that black people shunned Cosby due to his comments - is incorrect. Cosby is still popular and beloved amongst black people and is a frequent guest on black media outlets and I don't know one black person who was upset at him for what he said. I do know some who think he shouldn't have said it out in public like that, basically "airing dirty laundry" but even they agree with his actual comments.
I did google it to see what would pop up and there were just a bunch of articles saying "was Bill Cosby Right?" written by main stream media outlets who are generally not reflective of black American opinions. There was an article, opinion piece actually, written in TIME by a black person that states the following:
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After Cosby's speech, a number of my friends and relatives, some of whom were in attendance some of whom heard about the furor afterwards, expressed dismay at the statements — but several were more horrified that he had gone public, not at the opinions themselves. Cosby's comments did not contain any new arguments.
Just wanted to note that in response to her question, you did not provide evidence that black Americans have a distaste for Bill Cosby for the things he said.
We are both black. I can verify, being that after his 2004 comments (nearly 10 years ago I might add) that I went to an event where he spoke and it was standing room only and 98% black people in the audience and he received rounds and rounds of applause and lots of support. The majority of black people agreed with what he said. The media would have you believe we didn't, and a few black figures - Michael Eric Dyson is one I remember being critical, and some entertainers like Russell Simmons, but they are not reflective of all black Americans in this country. What you stated - that black people shunned Cosby due to his comments - is incorrect. Cosby is still popular and beloved amongst black people and is a frequent guest on black media outlets and I don't know one black person who was upset at him for what he said. I do know some who think he shouldn't have said it out in public like that, basically "airing dirty laundry" but even they agree with his actual comments.
I did google it to see what would pop up and there were just a bunch of articles saying "was Bill Cosby Right?" written by main stream media outlets who are generally not reflective of black American opinions. There was an article, opinion piece actually, written in TIME by a black person that states the following:
I do remember many articles from black pundits calling for BC's head for being an Uncle Tom, etc. Hopefully, your computer is up to date enough that you have google installed.
Look, I'm not in disagreement with any of the main points of the OP's or yours or anybody's post's in this thread with the exception of the usual racist suspects. My only point is that the failings of the black community's underclass is not related in any way to the Republican agenda of requiring photo ID to vote. These are really two seperate and distinct issues. You want to discuss the failings of the black underclass then start another of the many hundreds of threads on this issue that have already run their course on CD. You want to discuss the pros and cons of the Photo ID laws being passed by individual states then a thread dedicated to that issue will have my willing participation. Neither one is even remotely related, IMO.
No arguements here and I don't want to offend or get in a pi$$ing match with anyone.
Bill Cosby's name is evoked on this forum more than any other as some sort of symbol of "how Blacks should think". I want the people who constantly post about Bill Cosby to take a step back and just really absorb what I am about to write:
We (as in MANY, if not the majority of Black Americans) already agree with much of what Bill Cosby says so there really is no need to constantly throw him out there as some sort of guidepost. I have noticed that the people who tend to constantly evoke the name of Bill Cosby obviously do not have Black people as friends in their personal lives because if they did they would be aware of this fact already.
Also, I wish that some White people would stop making the presumption that the opinion of random pundits represent ALL or even most Black Americans. And even further, I wish that White people would recognize that Black Americans are NOT a monolithic group with one mindset. There is a great deal of diversity of values, opinions, etc amongst Black Americans
Bill Cosby's name is evoked on this forum more than any other as some sort of symbol of "how Blacks should think". I want the people who constantly post about Bill Cosby to take a step back and just really absorb what I am about to write:
We (as in MANY, if not the majority of Black Americans) already agree with much of what Bill Cosby says so there really is no need to constantly throw him out there as some sort of guidepost. I have noticed that the people who tend to constantly evoke the name of Bill Cosby obviously do not have Black people as friends in their personal lives because if they did they would be aware of this fact already.
Also, I wish that some White people would stop making the presumption that the opinion of random pundits represent ALL or even most Black Americans. And even further, I wish that White people would recognize that Black Americans are NOT a monolithic group with one mindset. There is a great deal of diversity of values, opinions, etc amongst Black Americans
Too bad it will be promptly ignored by 5:00pm today.
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