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Old 07-26-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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Read this Washington Times article saying the UN will have a hard time even getting it written in time for Friday.

Also, it should be noted that the US won a concession in this treaty concerning ammunition AND that the Senate will probably not consent (which is required).


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The draft treaty must also be reviewed, debated, amended and voted on by Friday — a difficult task in itself. If the U.N. manages this, President Obama would have to sign it, which the White House seems poised to do. The treaty wouldn’t be binding on the United States until approved by two-thirds of the Senate.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Obama has the 'gang' vote wrapped up!

If he does sign, he looses in November.

The outlaws and gangs are exempt from any firearm legislation.

You do realize the street gangs will be supporting Obama and make voting for their members mandatory, or else!. So Obama has the gang vote wrapped up!!!

This and other feel good gun laws allow MS13 and other global gangs to have the franchise on firearms. Maybe Holder than then sue the gangs for being a monopoly.

UN will be the UNdoing of America and Obama is doing his best to make that a reality.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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My grandfather was screaming for the US to leave the UN 40 years ago. At the time, I thought he was nuts. Now, I believe he was right. The UN is an albatross around the neck of the US, and being on the security council, no longer is to our benefit with Russia and China also having a seat. I truly believe we should leave the UN and if we really feel it necessary, form our own alliances with our true allies. Let the UN move to Beijing or Moscow.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Read this Washington Times article saying the UN will have a hard time even getting it written in time for Friday.

Also, it should be noted that the US won a concession in this treaty concerning ammunition AND that the Senate will probably not consent (which is required).
The US went and bombed Libya without Congress consent as just one example.
The US just went and changed immigration policy without Congress consent as another.

Obama was going to sign the Copenhagen agreement without Congress consent.
Thank China for helping to make that whole thing fall apart.

If they have it done he will sign it.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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My grandfather was screaming for the US to leave the UN 40 years ago. At the time, I thought he was nuts. Now, I believe he was right. The UN is an albatross around the neck of the US, and being on the security council, no longer is to our benefit with Russia and China also having a seat. I truly believe we should leave the UN and if we really feel it necessary, form our own alliances with our true allies. Let the UN move to Beijing or Moscow.
My dad said the same thing. Let them go somewhere else,
let's see how they do without us and our money.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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The problem is that registration of all guns will be turned over to the UN, who also voted last week for Iran to be on the governing counsel over gun control. If the treaty is not signed by the President or ratified by the Senate (Harry will not bring it up due to the elections) then it has to be entacted thru the Vienna Convention that was signed long ago. So we get gun registration that will be started in the US by the US courts till a president refutes or the Senate votes on the treaty. This is a back door way of getting gun control started, and by the way the treaty controls gun movements across international borders, say good by to Glocks which are made in Austria.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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the U N arms treaty as proposed or in an amended version if signed by our socialist president would be the best possible thing for America. It would be a high crime and misdeameanor a clear and overt violation of the oath of office and a direct and premeditated failure to protect and defend the constitution i.e. the second ammendment As such it would be an impeachable offense and absolutely indefensable. The constitution is explicit and unequivocal and clearly not subject to any other interpretation. Words mean what they were written to mean.
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