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Old 07-31-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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I hate to have to tell you this, but the NHS is a socialist program, as is Obamacare. And, Rush was exactly right in his assessment. What other reason could there be for putting on display a failed system which the British detest? This was Rush's point, which I guess you missed; but, you probably didn't here his comments first hand. I suspect you are regurgitating something you read at Media Matters or other left wing propaganda site. Right?
Dude. It is always a mistake to confuse your dreams for reality
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Infuriates the general public on a regular basis.
He does? Last time I checked, even with the faux outrage the left tried to gernerate a few months back, his audience is still growing, and he has just as many sponsers.

But, I understand. Anyone who agrees with him is stupid, right? So, I guess there are a lot of stupid people. Me included.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Maybe I've missed it. A 'Socialist bent' would suggest the whole thing.

What does Peter Pan, Harry Potter and the Industrial Revolution have to do with Socialism?

In addition, it sounds like you think all socialism is bad. I might simply not have my definitions straight. Would you say all socialism is bad and, if so, could you give me a definition of socialism? Obviously, I don't want to debate things you aren't saying.
Nothing even remotely in my post gives the slightest clue to what I think or why. I stated fact. It's not debatable.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Remind me, please, why anyone with a brain pays attention to this buffoon.

He's repeatedly shown that he doesn't have a whole lot of activity occurring between his two ears and I simply cannot fathom why anyone he says should have any relevance.
It's so easy to make malicious comments, isn't it? Much harder to back those comments up with some facts.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Tea-bagging (assuming that's what your referring to) isn't something only performed by homosexuals, so, i'd like to ask you..

"What do homosexuals have to do with this thread?" why mention them?
I guess you have no clue when, where and why the term 'teabagger' as reference to conservatives became 'cute'. A little research might be a good thing.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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Spot on, I live in one of the wealthiest parts of Britain and "socialise" with some pretty wealthy people ( I am a big fan of Polo and where there is Polo there is obscene amounts of money... ) and I think bar a couple of executives who get free private healthcare with their jobs every single one of them uses the NHS. Private Hospitals seems to be used by people as an "add on" by most people who can afford it at best. A "bonus" rather than the "norm".

I don't think I know one wealthy person whose baby was born in a private hospital. And they would most certainly never wish to disband the NHS anyway.

The problem is some of the posters here have not got a clue what they are talking about. They cannot grasp the concept that in Europe this is NOT a Political issue and a Universal Healthcare System is not divisive. In fact if anything it is the one uniting issue for ALL parties. But some American right wing nutjobs simply cannot see that because that would be so unpalatable wouldn't it.
Same is true in Switzerland. Private hospitals exist but, if you are seriously ill, you go to the public hospital because that is where the best doctors, nurses and equipment are.

I think that one of the problems with this thread is that some of the posters don't have a good knowledge of the subject. They get their information from the media they choose to read or watch and prefer that over the real life experience of other posters.

In reality, it is the US health care system which is the outlier. In general terms it delivers reasonable care but it costs far too much and more than twice the cost of the UK system. One might have thought that a fiscal conservative would be asking the question, "why are we paying so much more than everyone else for broadly comparable results"?
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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He does? Last time I checked, even with the faux outrage the left tried to gernerate a few months back, his audience is still growing, and he has just as many sponsers.

But, I understand. Anyone who agrees with him is stupid, right? So, I guess there are a lot of stupid people. Me included.
Really, how bad can it be to be considered stupid by 'stupider'. 'Stupid' is way ahead of those on the left.

lol
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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I watched some of the Olympic opening ceremony, quite by accident, when visiting a relative who owns a television. What do the kids say these days? - "it creeped me out". Are these the solemn rituals of the new world religion? Weird.

Strikingly absent from the historical narrative of England's experience was the single most important thing that ever happened to the British Isles: Christianity. It's amazing when you think about it. Every triviality qualifies for inclusion, but not the faith everyone is afraid of these days, the faith that not only shaped the history and people of Great Britain, but the entire English-speaking world including the United States.

America is America because - and only because - Britannia was Christianized.

So, the English and indeed the entire western world are ditching God, renouncing their Christian heritage, and erecting some strange (and obscenely expensive) neo-pagan worldwide cult to fill the void. Something new is definitely emerging across the pond. Whatever it is, it certainly isn't English, nor is it anything the world has ever seen.


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Actually the relatively recent and most observed universal religion is consumerism. And that seriously creep me out. We worship the God of Mammon, at the altar of almighty capitalism and free market. And the Olympics is actually pretty accurate at this representation of our updated deities being a freak show of multinational corporate sponsorships.

Most people in the UK ( as in most of the West including America despite its high and mighty cries of Religiosity ( Porn anyone ?, divorce anyone?, drink, drugs, promiscuity, rampant consumerism, etc... America is about as Christian as the rest of the West, simply because there is a highly vocal minority and a general apathy dictating self applied labels to make oneself feel more accepted does not mean being a Christian, Christianity is not about words but actions and I see little Christianity in the US anymore than I see it in the rest of mankind) are SECULAR.

Christianity had its time now it is more or less over. Until the next cycle of religion begins no doubt.

And hopefully the Christianity which is left behind can be a more honest, more humane and more genuine one, deeply and honestly experienced by people who have faith rather than the masses blindly following social norm when they have little to no faith.

Hopefully now that numbers have dropped so drastically we are left with genuine people of faith not simply followers and pretenders. Now people have a real choice and right to their own conscience rather than being force fed Christianity and having it imposed upon them by the powers that be.

We created God and are destroying Him/Her. I am fairly sure at some point we shall revive Him/Her , those things are cyclical. If not an Abrahamic God I am fairly sure another will take its place , though the all consuming God of Greed is here to stay with us.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Britain has every right to be proud of their universal healthcare. Find one person in England who would trade it for the American system. Just one.

If you ever can find that one person, rest assured they will be every bit as crazy as your typical Teabagger in the U.S.
So you challenge us to find someone who would prefer the US system and then declare that you wouldn't listen to what the person has to say anyway?

LOL!
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The sad thing is the tea bagger nutjobs just eat it up. Limbaugh could drop his feces right there and the tea baggers would start eating it and claiming it was caviar.

Anyway, the thing that he probably really got worried about was that it showed how much Brits love the National Health Service. It's extremely popular over there and not only do they spend much less than we do but they also get better actual health care because they've cut out all of the useless middlemen. Truths like that are enough to make Limbaugh and his followers collectively wet their pants.
They do not "love it", and it is not "extremely popular."
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