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Old 07-29-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Government distorts supply and demand (and increases prices) wherever it goes, but don't take my word for it...see college tuition's, housing market, energy, etc. for further examples.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Government distorts supply and demand (and increases prices) wherever it goes, but don't take my word for it...see college tuition's, housing market, energy, etc. for further examples.
That's not particularly the issue for medical schools. The number of slots is controlled in part by the AMA.

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/healthcareform.htm
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Just another "unintended consequence" of the worst legislation in American history.


New York Times:




Yes, the nightmare scenario that many warned about is going to come to pass. There is also the prospect of thousands of doctors leaving the profession once Obamacare takes effect -- unwilling to deal with reduced Medicare payments and red tape.

And what is true today will be true in a few years when Obamacare takes effect: If you're rich enough to afford a gold plated policy, you will likely have no trouble finding a physician to treat you. Health care for the average American is not going to get better, it is going to get worse. And we have Obamacare to thank for that.

You ripped that verbatim from someone;s blog and didn't even credit them. Nice.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/07/obamacare_will_exacerbate_doctor_shortages.html

I find the idea of 1000's of doctors choosing to leave for zero money instead of staying for some money to be really, really awesome. It's like if they took away some of your pay, and you say" I'll just quit and never work again."

Makes good sense. In crazy town.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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Obamacare may bring harm to American citizens. For example, many doctors and clinics do not accept medicare. So a health care system paid for throughout one's life may not be the product we were sold.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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'Patient Lottery' in Gander, NF Will Provide Better Care for Almost 2,000 Residents


In May of this year, the community of Gander, NF elected to hold a 'lottery' style selection of patients for two newly arrived Family Physicians. Although innovative, this approach is unlikely to help in solving a worsening shortage of doctors nationwide.


Gander is a small rural community of approximately 10,000 residents on the northeast coast of Newfoundland, Canada. While normally highlighted by travel magazines for its rugged coastline and small-town charm, it received national attention earlier this year for an odd response to the addition of two new GP's – Dr. Amanda Scott and Dr. Celine Dawson – to their local medical clinic. The call rang out that a 'lottery' would be held, patients queued for hours, at the end 4,000 names were entered into the draw—an astounding 40% of the population.


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...and in Ontario:

Need A Doctor? Better Win the Lottery

5 million Canadians have no primary care physicians
5 year waiting list to get a primary care physician!!

If there are doctor shortages, then use tax money to TRAIN MORE DOCTORS, instead of using trillions of it to invade countries and make your already-rich GOP friends richer. Get it? Stop voting Republican and your country will stop going downhill.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Free market 101

Increased demand results in less supply. Less supply means price goes up. When price goes up, profits are made more easily. When profits are made more easily, supply increases becasue people want their piece of that pie.

Its a cycle, and I'm always amazed that people who say they support the free market don't understand this concept.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Houston
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That's not particularly the issue for medical schools. The number of slots is controlled in part by the AMA.

Meaningful Healthcare Reform in the U.S. Would Start With Training Twice as Many Physicians <META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="health care">

...and who gives the AMA power?
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Free market 101

Increased demand results in less supply. Less supply means price goes up. When price goes up, profits are made more easily. When profits are made more easily, supply increases becasue people want their piece of that pie.
But what happens when the government subsidizes demand and restricts supply?

Answer: Higher prices.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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But what happens when the government subsidizes demand and restricts supply?

Answer: Higher prices.
How are they restricting supply?

They have created demand, but I haven't seen any legislation that says "we can only have 5000 doctors in the United States working at any one time"
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That's not particularly the issue for medical schools. The number of slots is controlled in part by the AMA.

Meaningful Healthcare Reform in the U.S. Would Start With Training Twice as Many Physicians <META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="health care">
Exactly.
There's an old saying in management. "There's no such thing as a shortage of eggs. If you don't have enough eggs to fill the demand, it's management's job to get more chickens." AMA, Do your job.
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