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Unfortunately, personal accountability and fiscal responsibility are not easy sells for a bunch of hungover credit junkies begging for the warm glow of the sissy nanny welfare state. Anything to be enslaved, as long as it never means having to fend for one's self. Yes, I can honestly see why the Republican party has an uphill battle.
The REAL battle the Republican party faces is to legitimize their claim as the party of "accountability and fiscal responsibility." They could start by offering a realistic alternative to the shameless pandering of the Democrats. The ethnic and generational dilemmas will take care of themselves.
The GOP can elicit plenty of votes if it offers a rational message. Reagan carried every state but one in 1984...
The REAL battle the Republican party faces is to legitimize their claim as the party of "accountability and fiscal responsibility." They could start by offering a realistic alternative to the shameless pandering of the Democrats. The ethnic and generational dilemmas will take care of themselves.
The GOP can elicit plenty of votes if it offers a rational message. Reagan carried every state but one in 1984...
Not really, the 1984 election had a very different make up then the 2008 election. Furthermore if the ethnic composition in turnout in 1988 had been what it was in 2008 we would have had President Dukakis. The Reagan voter base was very much white working class Democrats and they are declining. The GOP cannot win if it keeps following the same strategy it has been using since the 1970s, not with demographic changes anyway.
Pretty much. Asian, Hispanic, and African Americans are the three fastest growing ethnic groups in America and the GOP cannot do well with any of them. Unless the GOP changes it is only a matter of time before they start having a big election problem.
You're saying the GOP should become just like the democrat party and play race politics? Promise everything to the blacks and then turn around and when you think they aren't listening, promise everything to the hispanics and when you think both aren't listening promise everything to the Asians?
It will only survive if it stops competing with the democrats and their race politics and start appealing to the taxpayers, to individuals, to families.
Reagan didn't pander to this and that race group.
And look at California where at some point there will have to be cuts. Do they cut the union workers? Those on pensions and retired? Do they cut services to the illegals? Or do they please the illegals and cut services to blacks? Soon the stuff will hit the fan because while they can promise unlimited handouts to every group, they're not going to be able to satisfy them all. It's easy as long as all that government money is easily available but that may not always be the case.
Unfortunately, personal accountability and fiscal responsibility are not easy sells for a bunch of hungover credit junkies begging for the warm glow of the sissy nanny welfare state. Anything to be enslaved, as long as it never means having to fend for one's self. Yes, I can honestly see why the Republican party has an uphill battle.
First, I think it's a bit presumptious to assume that those being driven away from the Republican party are necessarily "hungover credit junkies". For many, the repugnant and oppressive social doctrine held by a select few white geezers is so offensive as to negate the revulsion for the liberals tendency to overeach intellectually and overspend economically.
It might also be helpful that if the Republicans want to espouse fiscal responsibility in any meaningful way they might want to show some.
You're saying the GOP should become just like the democrat party and play race politics? Promise everything to the blacks and then turn around and when you think they aren't listening, promise everything to the hispanics and when you think both aren't listening promise everything to the Asians?
It will only survive if it stops competing with the democrats and their race politics and start appealing to the taxpayers, to individuals, to families.
Reagan didn't pander to this and that race group.
And look at California where at some point there will have to be cuts. Do they cut the union workers? Those on pensions and retired? Do they cut services to the illegals? Or do they please the illegals and cut services to blacks? Soon the stuff will hit the fan because while they can promise unlimited handouts to every group, they're not going to be able to satisfy them all. It's easy as long as all that government money is easily available but that may not always be the case.
Actually I think it is the GOP that plays race politics right now and always has the problem for them is it is starting to catch up with them. Think about it this way. How do you get a white union member, factory worker to vote to bust up his own union and send his job to China or Mexico...You use race and religion.
The point being is that ever since the GOP adopted the Southern Strategy in the 1960-70s they wrote off winning ethnic minorities precisely because they did play the race card to win blue collar white voters.
Actually I think it is the GOP that plays race politics right now and always has the problem for them is it is starting to catch up with them. Think about it this way. How do you get a white union member, factory worker to vote to bust up his own union and send his job to China or Mexico...You use race and religion.
The point being is that ever since the GOP adopted the Southern Strategy in the 1960-70s they wrote off winning ethnic minorities precisely because they did play the race card.
Again -- the Republican party needs to reach out to people as individuals. Let the democrats play the group politics.
Already you can see some problems with the liberals as they are doing all they can to encourage ever massive illegal immigration to bring wages down to rock bottom and put Americans out of work. Sure it wins them the votes of the illegals -- but why would anyone else want to elect them?
Actually I think it is the GOP that plays race politics right now and always has the problem for them is it is starting to catch up with them. Think about it this way. How do you get a white union member, factory worker to vote to bust up his own union and send his job to China or Mexico...You use race and religion.
The point being is that ever since the GOP adopted the Southern Strategy in the 1960-70s they wrote off winning ethnic minorities precisely because they did play the race card to win blue collar white voters.
You have to be sharp enough to realize who it was that signed the NAFTA deal and took all those trips to China to give our jobs away -- that was none other than ultra liberal Bill Clinton. And do you think he made those deals because he cared about wages or jobs for Americans?
Again -- the Republican party needs to reach out to people as individuals. Let the democrats play the group politics.
Already you can see some problems with the liberals as they are doing all they can to encourage ever massive illegal immigration to bring wages down to rock bottom and put Americans out of work. Sure it wins them the votes of the illegals -- but why would anyone else want to elect them?
Actually if anything it is the GOP that is trying to bring over illegals, to bring wages rock bottom. The trick is how to keep them from voting. Why do you think Bush Jr. and McCain both attempted "immigration reform" that basically turned on the magnate and basically was everything, but voting?
If anything Democrats want legal immigration not illegal immigration, because they want those folks to vote. The GOP prefers illegal immigration and to keep it as underground as possible, because it helps businesses cut labor costs, undermines the minimum wage and OSHA, and those folks will stay far away from anything that has any of the trappings of government including voting.
You have to be sharp enough to realize who it was that signed the NAFTA deal and took all those trips to China to give our jobs away -- that was none other than ultra liberal Bill Clinton. And do you think he made those deals because he cared about wages or jobs for Americans?
Already you can see some problems with the liberals as they are doing all they can to encourage ever massive illegal immigration to bring wages down to rock bottom and put Americans out of work. Sure it wins them the votes of the illegals -- but why would anyone else want to elect them?
Since when can illegals vote??? You need to seriously think about how stupid that sounds.
You need to rethink what you just posted. Going back to the 80's, it was Reagan who started breaking unions and cutting white people's pay. Look what happened to the airline traffic controllers union. Reagan busted it. And other unions too. Unions protect workers from getting screwed over by their employers.
White big business owners hired illegal labor on their own to break unions, and many of those owners went to Mexico in search of illegal workers to do so.
Look at the meat packing industry. Many jobs in various industries that paid a $20 plus an hour wage plus full benefits and pensions, are filled by illegal workers who the BUSINESS owner deliberately hired to increase profits. They pay them 1/2 as much money, and force you out the door, and now they are trying to get rid of your pension.
Illegals don't have the power to do anything in this country. Business owners with money have the power and they OWN the Republican Party.
ILLEGALS WOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE IF WHITE BUSINESS OWNERS DIDN'T HIRE THEM!!! And these same white business owners join the Republican party outrage over illegal immigration, knowing full well they are the ones who benefit from it. And you guys who vote Republican don't see it. It's as clear as day.
And white business owners are the ones moving jobs overseas.
What did the Mexicans do to you Malamute? Your white boss is taking advantage of you, and using your fear of other ethnic groups by saying THEY are the ones taking your job away. I believe it's called projection. Placing blame on other groups of people of what your boss is doing to you.
LEGAL Mexicans vote, and LEGAL Mexicans are born and raised here, or immigrated here legally.
Democrats aren't trying to lower your wages Malamute! Unions are the biggest supporters of the Democratic party.
So when you lose your pension, and your job gets sent to China, India, or Mexico, or your pay gets lowered and you lose your benefits, look at that big fat white business owner of yours with the big cigar in his mouth. He's the one screwing you!!!
And if enough white people would see that the Republican Party and Big Business are working together to eliminate the middle class in this country, and stop voting for Republicans, you'll start seeing higher pay and better benefits, and more job security.
Younger voters today as they age are not going to buy into this Republican social conservatism, trickle down economics crap. The party will have to come up with a new gimmick to stay viable in the future.
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