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Old 08-01-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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It's amazing what depths of depravity the Osama Regime has descended to in this election campaign. The backroom criminality, the lies, the cheating, the stealing of taxpayer's money to fund campaign travel - the list just goes ON AND ON AND ON.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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While the Washington Examiner is doing it's darnedest to spin this thing, the article itself spells out the facts.

1. Congress has to come up with another budget to avoid the budget cuts they previously promised (who promised? The Republicans), which include a $50 billion cut to defense.

2. If Congress doesn't come up with a new budget, then the Department of Defense will have to cut its budget, and presumably some defense contractors will lose their contracts.

3. There have been questions raised about notifying defense contractor employees about the possibility of lay-offs.

4. The Labor Department accurately states that the notifications aren't to notify employees about the potential possibility, but to notify them of the certainty of an upcoming lay-off. As the expectation is that Congress will actually resolve its differences and manage to pass a budget, a lay-off notice at this time is not needed.

5. If budget cuts do occur, the Department of Defense will determine which contracts to cancel, and when they make that determination, they will notify the appropriate contractors who will then be able to review the measures they need to take. IF those contractors determine lay-offs are needed, then the notifications can go out at that time.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's not just the Dept of Defense. There's $500 billion in automatic cuts coming (remember when the debt ceiling was raised) and it effects more then just the Dept of Defense.

Several economists have been talking about "the perfect storm" brewing.
These cuts, Obamacare taxes and the end of the Obama cuts all hitting at once.

And here's Congress, renaming Post Offices and getting ready for their 5 week vacation.

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Old 08-01-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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Several economists have been talking about "the perfect storm" brewing.
These cuts, Obamacare taxes and the end of the Obama cuts all hitting at once.
Exclude the misstatement about the ACA and you might have had a factual statement.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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While the Washington Examiner is doing it's darnedest to spin this thing, the article itself spells out the facts.

1. Congress has to come up with another budget to avoid the budget cuts they previously promised (who promised? The Republicans), which include a $50 billion cut to defense.

2. If Congress doesn't come up with a new budget, then the Department of Defense will have to cut its budget, and presumably some defense contractors will lose their contracts.

3. There have been questions raised about notifying defense contractor employees about the possibility of lay-offs.

4. The Labor Department accurately states that the notifications aren't to notify employees about the potential possibility, but to notify them of the certainty of an upcoming lay-off. As the expectation is that Congress will actually resolve its differences and manage to pass a budget, a lay-off notice at this time is not needed.

5. If budget cuts do occur, the Department of Defense will determine which contracts to cancel, and when they make that determination, they will notify the appropriate contractors who will then be able to review the measures they need to take. IF those contractors determine lay-offs are needed, then the notifications can go out at that time.
Great post.
Another problem with the contracts (from an article in Stars & Stripes) was that there are duplicate and triplicate contracts held by each branch of the service. If they consolidate, they can save beaucoup $$$ and yes, save the taxpayer costs. If defense contractors are milking the government, also known as the taxpayer, shouldn't people be happy that the fat is being cut?
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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The baseless Obama attacks today are in their prime for some reason.

But as an employee who is on contract with a government agency and who knows about WARN I'll let you know that this sort of situation does not fall under the protections of this act, not right now at least. Like the PP mentioned, it is not a certainty that contracts will be loss. Also most DoD contracts are appropriated funds a year in advance and many of them may very well already be funded through the end of the contract period so while money is still there, those companie will get paid. Closer to the end of the term for the contract (sixty days out as required by WARN) and if those employees are not working on any other contract except DoD, then WARN would go into effect and they would receive notice of an impending layoff.

The company I work for has other projects that we work on, meaning the government is not our only source of work. If we lose our government contract (which may happen since our contract period is over next FY and the agency is going out to bid before that time) we more than likely will still have our jobs anyway. But the agency may issue a WARN notice anyway just to let us know we may be affected by this.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exclude the misstatement about the ACA and you might have had a factual statement.
It's not a misstatement. There are 21 taxes in Obamacare that kick in 2013. Not everyone will be effected by them but they will have an effect on the economy.
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Pa
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While the Washington Examiner is doing it's darnedest to spin this thing, the article itself spells out the facts.

1. Congress has to come up with another budget to avoid the budget cuts they previously promised (who promised? The Republicans), which include a $50 billion cut to defense.

2. If Congress doesn't come up with a new budget, then the Department of Defense will have to cut its budget, and presumably some defense contractors will lose their contracts.

3. There have been questions raised about notifying defense contractor employees about the possibility of lay-offs.

4. The Labor Department accurately states that the notifications aren't to notify employees about the potential possibility, but to notify them of the certainty of an upcoming lay-off. As the expectation is that Congress will actually resolve its differences and manage to pass a budget, a lay-off notice at this time is not needed.

5. If budget cuts do occur, the Department of Defense will determine which contracts to cancel, and when they make that determination, they will notify the appropriate contractors who will then be able to review the measures they need to take. IF those contractors determine lay-offs are needed, then the notifications can go out at that time.
We dont often agree but this is a good post. They were elected to get spending under control. That means cuts. Cuts are needed. Our military is way to big and over used. A little downsizing is in order.
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