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Old 08-02-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Cleveland_Collector View Post
The Great Depression ended well before 1953, friend.


When did it end?

The day WW-II was over? No.

We were still in a depression, when the war ended, compounded by troops coming home.

The depression didn't end until well after WW-II was over.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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The truth be told ... the "administration" intends to comply with the WARN Act ... because of the Congressional approved doomsday spending cuts. This is a Congressional action, not Presidential. But the federal government, which the Preisident manages, will make the notifications in accordance with applicable law.

This "truth" you mention above..........

a) Where is your source to this saying they'll comply?

b) Why did Jane Oates bother sending out notices telling them they didn't have to comply?
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He's not breaking the law..just bending it. Changing 'mandate' to 'guidance' and that means they don't have to do it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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The laws you pass today, could bite you in the ass tomorrow!

The guy the called the chosen one, is a complete fraud.


if he was off the chain he would be america's first dick!!!tator
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Will Obama's DOJ defend these government contractors when they get sued for violating this law?
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Sorry Libs...even if you try to ignore this, it's going to come back.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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Obama:

“The least employers can do when they’re anticipating layoffs is to let workers know they’re going to be out of a job and a paycheck with enough time to plan for their future,”

“We must act at the federal level to close the loophole that allows employers to disregard the WARN Act without penalty. We must give the WARN Act teeth, to ensure that workers are not left in the lurch without a job or a paycheck.”

But NOW, Obama doesn't want to comply with the law he sponsored!

The White House is worried that thousands of those jobs would be lost in election battleground states such as Florida, Virginia and North Carolina.


The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act requires employers with 100 workers or more to give 60 days’ notice of a plant closing or mass layoffs. And in 2007, then-Sen. Obama urged Congress to beef up the law, arguing that employers were ignoring it and the government wasn’t enforcing it.


The White House did not respond to a question about the apparent inconsistency between Mr. Obama’s position five years ago and the administration’s policy guidance this week.

The chairman of House Armed Services Committee said the new guidance was politically motivated.
“People will still get laid off because of the president’s irresponsibility, but they won’t have the notice to protect themselves and their families,” said Rep. Howard “Buck” P. McKeon, California Republican.


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Old 08-06-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Wow, this thread has only 3 pages?

If it had been Bush the Younger, the liberals would be frothing at the mouth until they fell over backwards.

Liberals didn't even bother to defend their Dear-Leader-God-Like-Poet-Nobel-Peace-Prize-Winning-Warrior-Boy-King™.

Fascinating....

Mircea
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Are you talking about this WARN act from 1988?

Or the FOREWARN act in 2009 that went no where?

Because the WARN act doesn't cover public employees. And the FOREWARN act, which is what you say Obama "championed," isn't law.
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Originally Posted by WARN

In general, employers are covered by WARN if they have 100 or more employees, not counting employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months and not counting employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week. Private, for-profit employers and private, nonprofit employers are covered, as are public and quasi-public entities which operate in a commercial context and are separately organized from the regular government. Regular Federal, State, and local government entities which provide public services are not covered.
But it does cover DOD contracts, which is why the Department of Labor issued the following in their notice.

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Originally Posted by Whiskey Hotel
The WARN Act and regulations also recognize that there may be situations in which an
employer cannot give 60 days advance notice. The Act lists three situations in which notice ma
be given fewer than 60 days before a plant closing or mass layoff will occur. These exceptions
are referred to as the faltering company, unforeseeable business circumstances, and natural
disaster exceptions. 29 U.S.C. 2102(b). Of these three exceptions, the unforeseeable business
circumstances exception is the one that would apply to plant closings or mass layoffs occurring
before or in the wake of the potential sequestration on January 2,. The unforeseeable business
circumstances exception occurs when “the closing or mass layoff is caused by business
circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable as of the time that notice would have been
required.” 29 U.S.C. 2102(b)(2).

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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2 weeks then GTFO. End of story.

In this day and age if you are not ready to be laid off at any time.... Well then you must be a government employee.

Run it like a damn business.
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