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Old 08-03-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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More lunacy from the "Christian" right.

Ralph Reed: Christians Need To Beg Forgiveness For God To Show Mercy In Election (VIDEO)
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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His premise is that Christians have done something awful, otherwise why would you have to BEG for forgiveness. The only time I could say anyone begging for forgiveness is if you did something really really bad.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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He's getting warmer. If only he were willing to see that Reagan was not the messiah he believes. That in God Mitt Romney we trust is the extension of golden calf worshiping philosophies plaguing conservative minds. That Ayn Rand was poisonous, and shooting at all others pointing it out put them in the hole they're in today. They can own it at any time but I see little indication that Evangelicals are willing to be that brutally honest with themselves to repent. It's not like I haven't seen this kind of hell bent pride in my own Catholic pews. Are we having a sin contest between denominations? Sadly, that appears to be the case.

How ironic is it that this is going on in every denomination and the source of grief is forever coming from those who believe they're orthodoxy. Jews & Islam are having the same exact problem. Coincidence? Nope. Orthodoxy, in my experience, are some of the most faithless people I've ever had the displeasure to meet.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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If god gave a damn about who was running the country, George Washington would still be the president.

Unfortunately, there is no god so we get bipedal hairless alpha-apes as leaders instead.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It is biblical. If the people who are called by my name shall repent and I will heal their land.


New International Version (©1984)
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.

English Standard Version (©2001)
if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Many Christians have watered down their first love which is Jesus. They have allowed this country to back slide into sin greatly. We will reap what we sow because we are losing the blessing of God on our nation.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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It is biblical. If the people who are called by my name shall repent and I will heal their land.


New International Version (©1984)
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.

English Standard Version (©2001)
if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Many Christians have watered down their first love which is Jesus. They have allowed this country to back slide into sin greatly. We will reap what we sow because we are losing the blessing of God on our nation.
What are YOUR wicked ways? If you all are praying for "forgiveness".....what did you do wrong?

Could it be a sin to lambaste people who disagree with you, such as those you call liberals, and the black community every chance you get, could that be a sin? Could it be a sin to be so negatively judgmental of so many people all the time? Isn't there something in the bible about "hate the sin but LOVE the sinner"?
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What are YOUR wicked ways? If you all are praying for "forgiveness".....what did you do wrong?

Could it be a sin to lambaste people who disagree with you, such as those you call liberals, and the black community every chance you get, could that be a sin? Could it be a sin to be so negatively judgmental of so many people all the time? Isn't there something in the bible about "hate the sin but LOVE the sinner"?
Not speaking out against sin. Jesus was no wimp. If you read the whole word of the New Testament , Jesus was outspoken . Why do you think he was crucified. Jesus spoke out on sin. He didn't spread fairy dust around with love love love. He told his followers to preach against sin and tell the people of the good news of a new kingdom to those who repented of their sins. And if one of his deciples was turned away out of that house after telling them to repent and come into the kingdom, Jesus said to wipe the dirt off their feet as a testament against them and it would be as bad for them as it is to those who were in Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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If I believed in such beings, I'd demand an apology from god, for unleashing upon us the likes of Ralph Reed and Glenn Beck.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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Sodom, as well as Gomorrah, had a lot of gay bars.

I imagine gay people had a good time in Sodom.

How bad could it have been?

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And if one of his deciples was turned away out of that house after telling them to repent and come into the kingdom, Jesus said to wipe the dirt off their feet as a testament against them and it would be as bad for them as it is to those who were in Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:48 PM
 
Location: The land of infinite variety!
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Many speakers at the "Under God Indivisible" rally, organized in conjunction with Glenn Beck's three-day "Restoring Love" event,
Starting to make sense...
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