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Old 08-06-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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She should be proud of who she was born. But that wont fly in her world now will it?
I live in her state too and her background is not a well-kept secret. In fact, it got national news coverage when she was elected because people like you can't believe that a conservative would vote for someone from a different background. Did Tim Scott paint himself a different color to keep it a secret or did people look past that to vote for him based on ideas - over Strom Thrumond's son.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Self defense never goes out of style ... unless you are brain dead .... then there is nothing to defend.
To defend aainst others with guns is NOT a reason to let everyone have guns and, to be honest. it becomes a catch 22 situation that only leads to more death............Now that reasoning IS being brain dead.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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It is a well-known fact that what eyewitnesses think they saw and reality are not always the same. Add fear, chaos, anxiety, and invariably running away from the perpetrators, and eyewitness accounts are shaky at best.

Why Science Tells Us Not to Rely on Eyewitness Accounts: Scientific American
Then why is it .. that for as long as there has been law enforcement, the first thing that is done to investigate a crime is to question witnesses about what they witnessed? Why is the first question always to ask for a description of the perpetrator or perpetrators? And why is it that hundreds of times per day, police announce on their radios, and in shift briefings a description of suspects wanted, details of which were provided by eyewitnesses?

And what has changed in the past two weeks, or different about these latest two events that would cause police to ignore that tried and true, historical means of investigating crimes?

Perhaps you have a link for that too.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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So who is saying it was just one man if not eyewitnesses?
The police. They did a thorough search of the building. There was one man found dead with a gun, the gun that killed and wounded the people there. As someone else said, if they find bullets around that don't match the gun which the dead guy used, maybe they could then say there was someone else involved. There is evidence available other than eyewitness accounts.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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My apologies to you. I got lazy and simply read your post and tried a shortcut by using my first sentence to exempt you. No castigating of yourself was intended.
No worries, much appreciated.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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The police. They did a thorough search of the building. There was one man found dead with a gun, the gun that killed and wounded the people there. As someone else said, if they find bullets around that don't match the gun which the dead guy used, maybe they could then say there was someone else involved. There is evidence available other than eyewitness accounts.
Well then if the plice said it, without asking eyewitnesses, then it must be true.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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If people in the USA want to own guns and do not want any kind of sane gun control then have your guns.... buy as many as you want but KEEP THEM AT HOME!
Millions of us in the USA do not want to be involved in your gun madness.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Self defense never goes out of style ... unless you are brain dead .... then there is nothing to defend.
Here is a AMAZING concept............. have proper gun control and you won't have to die or defend yourself because of and from people with guns............... it works.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Then why is it .. that for as long as there has been law enforcement, the first thing that is done to investigate a crime is to question witnesses about what they witnessed? Why is the first question always to ask for a description of the perpetrator or perpetrators? And why is it that hundreds of times per day, police announce on their radios, and in shift briefings a description of suspects wanted, details of which were provided by eyewitnesses?

And what has changed in the past two weeks, or different about these latest two events that would cause police to ignore that tried and true, historical means of investigating crimes?

Perhaps you have a link for that too.
And why is it that DNA has proven in cases that law enforcement GOT IT WRONG, and that their eyewitnesses were, in fact, WRONG?

Just because LEO uses eyewitness accounts in their investigations does not in any way make eyewitness accounts more accurate. And how do you know that law enforcement hasn't changed any of their methods of investigating? Hopefully the police/law enforcement uses MORE THAN eyewitness statements to analyze their cases and find the person they think is guilty!!! Do you think there is no other kind of evidence to be looked at and analyzed? If you have an eyewitness saying that four people did the shooting and you have absolutely NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE at all to corroborate those witnesses account, yet you do have physical evidence which shows only one shooter, as well as OTHER eyewitnesses who say there was only one shooter, what do you do? Throw out every other logical piece of evidence to try to prove the eyewitness or witnesses who said there were four shooters? Geeeezzzzz. You don't investigate. You already have your mind made up and just look for any little thing to support your BELIEF.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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To defend aainst others with guns is NOT a reason to let everyone have guns and, to be honest. it becomes a catch 22 situation that only leads to more death............Now that reasoning IS being brain dead.
That's not true. All data collected shows that areas with the most strict gun laws experience the most violent crime.

Secondly, gun laws are only followed by law abiding citizens. Criminals do not obey the law, and that's why they are called criminals. Did strict gun laws prevent criminals from committing armed robbery and murder in Washington DC for decades? Several years, Washington DC was the murder capital of the country ... I lived there ... I know ... and no one was allowed to have a handgun in DC except Law Enforcement. But the criminals were often better armed than the police.

The borders of Maryland and Virginia sandwiched DC .... and the crime rates in those states where gun ownership was not illegal were significantly less.

This pattern repeats every place that law enforcement statistics have been analyzed. Aside from seeing police, the the very next thing that criminals hate to see is a potential victim shooting back at them. They don't like that at all.
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