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[quote=EddieB.Good;25509365]The idelogical debates/arguments are fair game and what politics used to be about. Your opposition to the other side was based on the merits that you thought your position was right/stronger.
Even the partisan overreach & blame games are based on fact, just fact covered in faux outrage.
What I don't understand are the outright fabrications. The presentation of things that are easily disproven by facts as fact. The lies. The distortions. It's disgusting.
It seems 4-5 times a week Conservatives on here would rather froth at the mouth over a lie than actually admit they are pushing a lie. Again, I'm not talking about opinion on policy or ideology. I'm talking about facts that are misrepresented, distorted, or omitted just to paint a picture.
How many threads have there been these past few weeks? Off the top of my head...
Obama removing voting rights for the military...
Obama telling business owners they didn't build their business...
Obama is cherry-picking UE data...
DOJ is about to give Islam special rights against criticism...
Obama is spending the 4th of July in France...
Are Republicans that desperate that they'll happily resort to lying? Or are they so deluded about the truth of politics that any lie about Obama or Democrats is assumed to be true?[/quote]
The answer to your two last questions is, Yes. Thing is, it is not something new for them.
You and roy are exactly who I'm talking about. You make the claim that Obama was obviously talking about small business, yet the quote you use always starts at the sentence after he's clarifying the infrastructure he's talking about.
If you and your ilk are so certain of this obvious truth, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS LEAVE OUT THAT SENTENCE?
I did reference 0bama talking about investing in roads and bridges in the previous sentence, and I have posted a video that covered much more context, I just don't see the need to do it every freaking time, to please sycophants like you. So it is clear I was not trying to mislead people.
Here you go, a video where 0bama makes the case, with strawdogs and strawmen, to increase taxes on business owners as he belittles their success, intelligence and hard work. 0bama supporters like you will have us believe that everything is made better if he was only belittling business owners, by accusing them of not helping to pay for infrastructure. Sorry, that does not excuse 0bama because he was still being a small, petty little man.
The idelogical debates/arguments are fair game and what politics used to be about. Your opposition to the other side was based on the merits that you thought your position was right/stronger.
Even the partisan overreach & blame games are based on fact, just fact covered in faux outrage.
What I don't understand are the outright fabrications. The presentation of things that are easily disproven by facts as fact. The lies. The distortions. It's disgusting.
It seems 4-5 times a week Conservatives on here would rather froth at the mouth over a lie than actually admit they are pushing a lie. Again, I'm not talking about opinion on policy or ideology. I'm talking about facts that are misrepresented, distorted, or omitted just to paint a picture.
How many threads have there been these past few weeks? Off the top of my head...
Obama removing voting rights for the military...
Obama telling business owners they didn't build their business...
Obama is cherry-picking UE data...
DOJ is about to give Islam special rights against criticism...
Obama is spending the 4th of July in France...
Are Republicans that desperate that they'll happily resort to lying? Or are they so deluded about the truth of politics that any lie about Obama or Democrats is assumed to be true?
How many? All except for 2 (probably all, but I'm giving a little just to be on the safe side).
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