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YOU made the claim that colleges don't accept American citizens as international students.
YOU kept on offering up MIT's policy (current policy, I will point out), as proof of your assertion.
I said it was one example. HistorianDude claims to have cited Columbia's actual policy, but he cited current policy not the policy in effect at the time of Obama's admission.
Not hard to understand. Why are you both struggling so with it?
So you concur, you have no idea what the admission offices of Occidental, Columbia or Harvard considered when they considered Obama's admission applications????
So you concur, you have no idea what the admission offices of Occidental, Columbia or Harvard considered when they considered Obama's admission applications????
Correct. That's why we want to see those records.
We know he traveled on his own passport when he returned by himself from Indonesia as a child. Which country issued the passport?
I said it was one example. HistorianDude claims to have cited Columbia's actual policy, but he cited current policy not the policy in effect at the time of Obama's admission.
Not hard to understand. Why are you both struggling so with it?
I cited the policy.
HistorianDude re-posted my citation.
And evidently, you are the one struggling, here.
YOU argue that Obama, an American citizen, applied to several colleges as a foreign student.
Evidently, a SUBTEXT of your argument is that he did so illegally.
Unfortunately for you, there is NO laws prohibiting American citizens from applying to college as foreign students, so it could not have been illegal.
You are GIVEN a college policy that explicitly states it will review the applications of American citizens as foreign students. You try to challenge that policy, for some inane reason.
And then you want proof that the policy was in place thirty years ago.
Do you understand the concept of relevancy?
The policy is actually irrelevant. MB's been laboring repeatedly to make that clear to you. It's irrelevant. I only posted the policy because it's fun to rebut birthers when they are blatantly WRONG. But the policy is irrelevant.
Obama was an American citizen. He graduated from an American high school. To gain admission to college, he had to provide his social security number and his high school transcripts, as well as his college entrance exam results. Obama's social security number, his high school transcripts from a high school in Hawaii, and his college entrance results would all have indicated to the college admissions staff that he was an American student. There would have been no reason for the college admissions staff to refer him to an international admissions program. The advantages for international students are outweighed by the disadvantages. There are more scholarships for American students. There's more financial aid for American students. The costs of attendance are less for American students. Most schools demand that international students offer up more than just high school records and SAT scores to attend, they want the students to take proficiency exams, and they want the students to provide more personal information, like when the school closes for Christmas break what provisions does the student expect the school to make for them.
The argument that you are making that Obama would have wanted to enroll as a foreign student in an American school is simply silly. And you haven't offered an iota of evidence otherwise.
We know he traveled on his own passport when he returned by himself from Indonesia as a child. Which country issued the passport?
WTF????
You have no reason to want to see his college admissions records. You just conceded as much.
And he was an American citizen when he went to Indonesia, and an American citizen when he returned. By law. Born in the USA = American citizen. Children cannot revoke American citizenship, so it doesn't matter where he lived, attended school, or even travelled while a child.
No. His supporters will vote for him regardless of his lies and his performance in office. All this investigation crap is a wasted effort.
If you want to defeat Obama, just get out the vote. You CANNOT change the minds of his supporters.
Absolutely correct.
I don't see why folks are even bothering!
There is a big segment of this population who do not care what Obama has done that might be illegal. They don't care if he is a liar. They don't care if the hospital admission forms his momma filled out before giving birth state that his religion is Muslim. They don't care if he has commie friends. They do not care if he is part of one of the most corrupt political machines in this country's history (CHicago).
THEY DO NOT CARE.
All they care about is that Obama is their man.
It wouldn't matter if Elijah descended in a cloud of fire and annoited Mitt Romney King of Kings, lol. Obama's peeps just want to keep the gravy train running as long as they possibly can.
So why on earth are people wasting their breath and video footage trying to convince people NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA. Anyone who isn't voting for Obama made their minds up A LONG TIME AGO not to vote for him. The rest will be worshipping at the Obama altar til the day he moves out of the White House, be it Jan 2013 or Jan 2017.
The thing is, what other President like Obama has paid 4 million in court to suppress all their records? Makes no sense IMO.
Didn't we know a couple elections ago through transcripts that Bush was a C+ student and Al Gore was a C- student, so why don't we know school grades now? Why don't we get to see if Obama was honest in his school applications?
Thing is when asked, none of you can provide proof that any money was spent trying to hind anything. Amazing that people that can sometimes come across as educated, such as yourself and Hawkee, can be so dumb to believe that the President was not born in the USA and that the GOP would do nothing about it
Forget the mans skin shade for a moment..and the idea that some how he showed through his election that America was a free and noble nation- where even a black guy can be President. Put all that stuff aside and look at the great things he has done to bring the nation forward into peace and prosperity......and you will see NOTHING. You want to re-elect an illusion...go ahead...seems like being ignorant of reality is now the norm.
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