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Old 08-07-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: North America
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It seems that a 11 year old can figure this out.

Why can't progressives?


Jobs, the real fiscal cliff, Obamanomics - YouTube
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Blessed are the job creators, for they shall inherit the earth.

BTW, can you list the "handouts" you dislike and the "handouts" you do like? If you need help with recognizing all of the handouts, beyond those going to those worthless leeches that you know as the poor, I will be glad to help.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Are SBA loans evil too?
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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Are SBA loans evil too?
You mean the ones where people take the risk of taking on a loan that they will have to pay back with interest?
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:36 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Special tax rates should be limited to venture capitalism and entrepeneurship. If something meets that narrow criteria Im all for super low tax rates, perhaps even exempting $X per year entirely.

Trust fund babies are rarely job creators.
Hedge fund managers are rarely job creators.
gambling on commodities thru funds is not a job creator.

The rich create all the jobs is like saying all NBA players are men therefore all men are NBA players.

Reward the creators, the rest of them can pay the stated income tax rates. At the same time start combining federal agencies and departments in a planned consistent nonduplicative manner for REAL spending cuts.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: North America
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Blessed are the job creators, for they shall inherit the earth.

BTW, can you list the "handouts" you dislike and the "handouts" you do like? If you need help with recognizing all of the handouts, beyond those going to those worthless leeches that you know as the poor, I will be glad to help.
Why do you consider the poor "worthless leeches"?
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: North America
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Are SBA loans evil too?
How is something that you must pay back with interest a "handout"?
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: #
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Jobs aren't created by government handouts?

Farmers and oil workers may disagree.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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The government does create jobs and the environment for jobs to be created. Private capital does also create jobs, too.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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Today "entrepreneurs" don't create jobs. They could if they wanted (they are currently sitting on huge piles of cash), but they won't. Indeed, no government can do what the private sector can.
However, unlike what conservatives claim, it has little to do with Obama (or the government in general). The main reason is they don't expect quick gains in the near future. Demand from US consumers is not expected to grow very fast so they stay out.
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