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That is not the point. This bill was passed to insure all those folks who didn't have insurance wasn't it? All those poor souls who couldn't AFFORD it while the evil rich people laugh at em and all. Now the ones who couldn't afford it still can't.
One way or another, ObamaCare is going to be forcing millions of people into Medicaid, and the government and CBO will report them all as having health insurance coverage, when the truth is about a third or more will not be getting care, because they will be refused new patient enrollment by their doctors.
When fully implemented, the Affordable Care Act will expand the number of people with health insurance. This raises questions about the capacity of the health care workforce to meet increased demand. I used data on office-based physicians from the 2011 National Ambulatory Medical Care Survey Electronic Medical Records Supplement to summarize the percentage of physicians currently accepting any new patients. Although 96 percent of physicians accepted new patients in 2011, rates varied by payment source: 31 percent of physicians were unwilling to accept any new Medicaid patients; 17 percent would not accept new Medicare patients; and 18 percent of physicians would not accept new privately insured patients.
That is not the point. This bill was passed to insure all those folks who didn't have insurance wasn't it? All those poor souls who couldn't AFFORD it while the evil rich people laugh at em and all. Now the ones who couldn't afford it still can't.
That's not true. I can't afford insurance at this time because I'm in hock up to my neck from medical bills my wife accumulated. Although she is now covered under medicare and received a settlement from SSDI we are still in a lot of debt. Over time this will be rectified but not at this moment. I'm not poor but neither can I afford coverage. I'm no spring chicken either.
And if you wonder why the debt occurred in the first place it's because of the the lousy system that was firmly in place in this Great wealthy nation. My wife worked for 30 years got sick and was dumped by her employer, lost coverage. I covered her with my very expensive employer subsidized insurance, the owner died, son took over, company went belly up. No insurance and above all no COBRA because there was no company any longer. My new employer could no longer provide coverage---Just before Obama was president. All medical paid out of pocket for 2.5 years.
Above is one damn reason why something had to change. Is the change perfect, no, but change it is!
So a family of five who has no health insurance now because they can't afford it will either be able to sign up in 2014 and the out of pocket is around 2-3K and if the don't sign up the penalty is 2K. So what are they supposed to eat if they can't afford it? I guess they are sheet out of luck. So Obama just stole 2K dollars from a lower middle class family. Yippee.
If you can't provide food,shelter,clothing,and healthcare(its a basic neccesarity)
Health insurance != Health care
This law forces one to purchase insurance, not care. Care is cheap, except in the rare instances of catastrophic illness or injury. Insurance that covers catastrophic only is cheap, but uh-oh, Obamacare makes that illegal.
This law forces one to purchase insurance, not care. Care is cheap, except in the rare instances of catastrophic illness or injury. Insurance that covers catastrophic only is cheap, but uh-oh, Obamacare makes that illegal.
IT'S A BAD LAW.
There are two issues I have with Obamacare and that is forcing people to purchase for-profit insurance. The other is that many will be forced on medicaid, it could be sub-standard coverage.
There are two issues I have with Obamacare and that is forcing people to purchase for-profit insurance.
And yet, it was the right wingers, and Mitt Romney (now there couldn't be a better conservative than him), who were vocal opponents of Public Option. Mitt Romney was bad-mouthing it, and pushing for his plan to be used as the model (which is technically what Obamacare you hate... is).
I researched this Obama care plan and don't see how we will do very well if it does not disappear. Many companies will drop coverage and just pay the fine so a lot of people will lose their medical insurance. It will make it more expensive and paperwork intensive for companies to do business here and encourage them to keep their staff levels lower and outsource or move many jobs overseas. The massive amount of new government workers to be hired to manage this program will be a huge tax burden. The Medicare system loses 60 billion a year to fraud so I can only think Obama care will lose even more than that amount. At the end of the day, it seems Obama care is designed to destroy the current medical care system and force us into a socialist medical care system like in Europe.
I personally think all this talk about how these employers will suddenly drop insurance and pay the fine instead ($2000 per employee) because it is cheaper is a bunch of hot air. Right now, most companies are more than that for health insurance w/o any mandate!
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Originally Posted by OICU812
One way or another, ObamaCare is going to be forcing millions of people into Medicaid, and the government and CBO will report them all as having health insurance coverage, when the truth is about a third or more will not be getting care, because they will be refused new patient enrollment by their doctors.
When fully implemented, the Affordable Care Act will expand the number of people with health insurance. This raises questions about the capacity of the health care workforce to meet increased demand. I used data on office-based physicians from the 2011 National Ambulatory Medical Care Survey Electronic Medical Records Supplement to summarize the percentage of physicians currently accepting any new patients. Although 96 percent of physicians accepted new patients in 2011, rates varied by payment source: 31 percent of physicians were unwilling to accept any new Medicaid patients; 17 percent would not accept new Medicare patients; and 18 percent of physicians would not accept new privately insured patients.
That is no damn reason not to have some sort of UHC. Increase the supply! For those of you who are already racing to your keyboards to say how long it takes to train a doctor, many health conditions can be managed by nurse practitioners and PAs, who take much less time to get into the work force.
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