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My son worked under 40. He was p/t ..between 30-35 hours.
Still in HS so I did watch those hours because they would have worked him up near 40 but I told him school was more important. That's how I know how much he worked.
Insurance was offered to everyone. I saw and read the paperwork he got and helped him to fill out only what he needed to. Papa John's was his first job so he didn't know any of the ropes or what paperwork do fill out and return.
It was not the greatest plan and it was expensive. Then again..this is Papa John's and this was insurance offered to the p/t employees. I would wager that under Obamacare this would not be a "qualifying insurance plan" and that is why the hours are being cut to 29.
Insurance for p/t workers is not comparable to what full time workers get..not even close.
Walmart offers insurance to their p/t workers and you still read that they have their kids on medicaid anyway so that should give you an indication of cost vs quality.
And my remark about pools was made in hopes that you would read up of the next upcoming crisis/fiasco concerning Obamacare. Only this one is between state governments and the Fed.
I haven't kept up with details though because Texas already told the Fed they were not going to operate a state pool and refer all Texans to the Fed pool.
But if your state is going to do their own pool there are issues and questions and not all the answers and the Fed wants states to make decisions now without having all the information and data..mostly regarding state costs.
So just what is the issue? That more of them might take the insurance now? That's not the same, you know. It sounds like Papa John's is well, just making noise.
My daughter worked for a day care chain. They offered insurance to full timers and I don't know who all else. She was one of a handful who used it; she said the married workers were generally on their husband's policies. The policy she had wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as what DH gets at a telecom firm.
Pizza chain Papa John's told shareholders that President Obama's health care law will cost consumers more on their pizza.
On a conference call last week, CEO and founder John Schnatter (a Mitt Romney supporter and fundraiser) said the health care law's changes — set to go into effect in 2014 — will result in higher costs for the company — which they vowed to pass onto consumers.
Red Lobster too. They already stated that when it happens, they will be letting go all their full time employees so they don't have to carry any benefits or pay overtime anymore.
Perfect!
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You are forgetting that there is a punitive side to this..$2000-$3000 per employee penalty.
Yes. To prohibit this practice going forward of capitalizing on low-skill, low-wage workers. PJ wouldn't disclose how many of its employees were uninsured, but, "but in 2010 the service industry had one of the lowest rates of insured employees, with 33 percent of the workforce uninsured," according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Half of the service industry is also PT already. This is nothing new.
His overall complaint is somewhat not-as-clear/sound as well. PJ employees 16,500 people, however, 80% of the company's restaurants are independently owned franchises. "As long as a franchise owner does not employ more than 50 people, he or she does not have to pay for employee health insurance." Find me a PJ store that employees over 50+. $2,000 is also the charge per person, after the first 30 employees.
Hence, this is somewhat a big stink for show rather than substance.
Lastly, if PJ is not paying for the PT workers not covered, just who is? And, at what cost? Bet it's $2K more if it's subsidized insurance or reliance on the ER, and, bet it comes at a greater human cost to the employee themselves. If you're making $7.50 an hour, (and, are not a student), that leaves no wiggle room to purchase out of reach private insurance, let alone pay for shelter and food.
With Obamacare, (despite its faults and flaws that need some tinkering), at least that uninsured person trying to get ahead, yet earning a low wage, will have the option to receive a tax credit to enable those workers to purchase affordable, quality insurance options. Right now, as I said before, most go uninsured and risk their health in a gamble, which, can be a 'costly' one.
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If you have all p/t workers than you don't have to worry about either insurance or the penalty or the additional paperwork (IRS wants quarterly forms filed).
That's not the goal of Obamacare. If it's the means some businesses choose to get to an end, so be it. But, the rationale behind this is to fix a dysfunctional, unsustainable system where over 50 million in this country are uninsured. There's facets of the policy that need to be corrected, but, overall, at least it's a step in a direction designed to address this greater issue.
Red Lobster too. They already stated that when it happens, they will be letting go all their full time employees so they don't have to carry any benifits or pay overtime anymore.
Perfect!
They, like most restaurants, don't have many FT employees to begin with.
Good job, cheering for people to lose their jobs. Let's show our displeasure over Obama's election by laying off low-paid food servers. And what's with you RWs always throwing some deflection in? What's this got to do with overtime pay?
They, like most restaurants, don't have many FT employees to begin with.
Good job, cheering for people to lose their jobs. Let's show our displeasure over Obama's election by laying off low-paid food servers. And what's with you RWs always throwing some deflection in? What's this got to do with overtime pay?
I was siding with Red Lobster workers.
Good job to "deflect" my disapproval of what my intentions were.
They, like most restaurants, don't have many FT employees to begin with.
Good job, cheering for people to lose their jobs. Let's show our displeasure over Obama's election by laying off low-paid food servers. And what's with you RWs always throwing some deflection in? What's this got to do with overtime pay?
Yup. Currently, some 75 percent of Darden's 180,000 employeesare already working exclusively part-time and are not eligible for benefits. Darden owns Red Lobster, Longhorn Steakhouse, and Olive Garden.
That's not the goal of Obamacare. If it's the means some businesses choose to get to an end, so be it. But, the rationale behind this is to fix a dysfunctional, unsustainable system where over 50 million in this country are uninsured. There's facets of the policy that need to be corrected, but, overall, at least it's a step in a direction designed to address this greater issue.
You're right and I agree with you. I don't know what they had hoped to accomplish with what they did.
This rash of cutting hours and laying off is since the IRS ruling came out in Sept.
My son has been training new workers for the last 2 weeks now.
And we did see that huge bump in p/t job creation in the last BLS report (582,000 new part time jobs).
Yup. Currently, some 75 percent of Darden's 180,000 employeesare already working exclusively part-time and are not eligible for benefits. Darden owns Red Lobster, Longhorn Steakhouse, and Olive Garden.
The Government needs to keep it's nosey ass out of it. Do they pay the bills? Do they have to live with people not coming because the service and the food isn't as good anymore and cost MUCH more? Hell no...just getting into someones business.....
Obama is the WORLD'S EXPERT on doing just that.
If someone wants to allow smoking in their business, it should be their individual right to do so as well.
More Government regulations.......regulations that FORCE many of these businesses to close.
Now there isn't ANY business......Just like a Hooters closed down because it didn't have a handicap bathroom.
Cool...now there isn't a Hooters at all.
Are these people insane?
Absolutely!
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