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Old 08-08-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Who says they have interest in the common good?
Children are persons and members of society. They have an interest in being well fed, sheltered, educated, having a good family, etc., and because society has the same interest, this good is called "common".

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Vote by taxes contributed would make more sense than what you have proposed, one dollar contribution, one vote.
Hardly. Taxes represent the taxpayer alone. Generally the more taxes paid, the narrower the interest of the taxpayer. Society is much larger than that.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Only when you allow them. Why would you do that?
Do what?
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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You're assuming something that just isn't true. That our votes really count. Wall St. and big money decide elections, not the plebs who vote and bicker day in and day out about the evil Democrats and evil Republicans.
You may have a point there.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Do what?
Why is it so difficult for so many to understand what they had wrote and someone replied to?

I'm amazed at how many are unable to comprehend the quote feature and how it works concerning what they said.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Why is it so difficult for so many to understand what they had wrote and someone replied to?

I'm amazed at how many are unable to comprehend the quote feature and how it works concerning what they said.
Excuse me, I missed your question, but found it. Surely you aren't suggesting it is only me who has allowed big money to control our elections? The fact is almost the entire population of America has let this happen. Most Americans have no idea what is going on.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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The family, not the individual, is the foundation of every society. For this reason I have long proposed that only a designated head of household should be permitted to vote, and his vote should be weighted according to the number of people living under his roof.

For example:

Bill, a married father of two - four votes
Jane, a single mother of three - four votes
John, a married father of seven - nine votes
Lisa, a single college student living alone - one vote
George, a single college student with two roommates - three votes (George is the designated head of household, his roommates do not vote)

This also ensures that children, who have legitimate interests in the common good, are fairly represented at the ballot box.
Did you give this ANY thought before you posted it?
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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The matter of children's representation should not be passed over lightly. Children in society have legitimate interests, as previously mentioned, but in our present system they have no voice. A 40 year old man responsible for the upbringing of five young children has the same vote as a 19 year old sorority girl with no responsibilities whatsoever. This is a wildly lopsided situation, resulting in an economy and a society that treats children as little more than an economic burden.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Did you give this ANY thought before you posted it?
About ten years. And, I must admit, it's not entirely original.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
The family, not the individual, is the foundation of every society. For this reason I have long proposed that only a designated head of household should be permitted to vote, and his vote should be weighted according to the number of people living under his roof.

For example:

Bill, a married father of two - four votes
Jane, a single mother of three - four votes
John, a married father of seven - nine votes
Lisa, a single college student living alone - one vote
George, a single college student with two roommates - three votes (George is the designated head of household, his roommates do not vote)

This also ensures that children, who have legitimate interests in the common good, are fairly represented at the ballot box.
That's just the dumbest thing I've read in a very long time.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Children are represented and given a voice by their parents. Many of the parents I know cast votes that are largely impacted by what they believe will be best for their children, today and in their child's future.
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