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I'm certainly not a soccer mom (not even a mom), and I don't care too much what strangers think of me... but if the gay community can't speak up without being jumped on, I have NO problem speaking with them in support. So far I've yet to have a gay person tell me to stop, so I'll assume they don't mind my joining in the fight. If a straight anti-gay person cares, oh freakin' well - get over it.
PLEASE, you sound like you believe you're the last great straight hope; rescuing the battered gays. Do you even realize how hypocritical you seem?
Take a deep breath, look around; how hard is it for you to realize that the gay agenda has no room for another "straight talking-head?" They have no room for staright anything, let alone common sense. You might think your shallow "I'm above all" shell is impenetrable, but you are just fodder for the gay cannons. Move along, this isn't the reality you've been searching for.
Hang out with gay folk sometime (I have), the whole act is perverted bull$hit!
It is an important topic...Sex and the re-definition of sex is going to have such an impact on society - This is a historic time...I just hope that fanatics don't take over. Be it gay fanatics or so called religious nuts...We have to look forward in time and ask - what kind of world are we making here...and do we know the ultimate result of these social changes - that are dramatic and drastic to say the least.
PLEASE, you sound like you believe you're the last great straight hope; rescuing the battered gays. Do you even realize how hypocritical you seem?
I don't see myself as anything except somebody who supports gay rights, and isn't afraid to say it... does that threaten you? And how exactly am I being hypocritical? Please explain.
For the record, though, I mostly just discuss this issue on the forums. Where I live it's really a non-issue, so there is no need for "talking heads" or constant advocacy. But if you bring up the subject, of course I'll say what I feel about it.
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Take a deep breath, look around; how hard is it for you to realize that the gay agenda has no room for another "straight talking-head?" They have no room for staright anything, let alone common sense. You might think your shallow "I'm above all" shell is impenetrable, but you are just fodder for the gay cannons. Move along, this isn't the reality you've been searching for.
Never said I was "above all," and not sure where you got that idea. Boy, you sure read WAAAY too much into my post!
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Hang out with gay folk sometime (I have), the whole act is perverted bull$hit!
Um, I'm from San Francisco... you think I've never hung out with gay people??
I have a gay brother, a handful of gay friends, and three gay ex-roommates - not to mention countless LGBTQ acquaintances over the years. So not only have I hung out with them, I have actually lived with them. At no time have I noticed any "perverted BS" or act, so you clearly have a different perspective or know an odd crowd.
I know the definition, as I see examples of it here daily...
big·ot
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
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Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex, or sexual orientation.
Maybe the better definition to look up would be "intolerant."
in·tol·er·ant
[in-tol-er-uhnt]
adjective 1. not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; bigoted.
2. unable or unwilling to tolerate or endure (usually followed by of ): intolerant of very hot weather.
So the better question is not if someone is a bigot, but if they are actually not tolerating or respecting another's beliefs, etc. What many of us are saying is that we treat gay people the say way as anyone else, so how is that being intolerant, and thus, bigoted?
Also, if you want to use your definition coupled with mine, YOUR side is also bigoted since you disagree with our Christian way of life.
But whenever gay people do bring up the topic of homosexuality, even in the most casual, offhand manner, we're invariably accused of "rubbing people's noses in it" and "shoving it down people's throats" and similar anatomical metaphors.
Likewise, if a Christian brings up the subject of believing in traditional marriage (such as Mr. Cathy of CFA), he/she is accused of being a bigot.
See how that works?
I will go so far as to state that some of the gay people I know DO in fact shove it in people's faces. I have had to hide FB friends b/c all they post is different stuff related to that topic. That is indeed going too far. How would they feel if all I posted was stuff related to my belief about traditional marriage? I rarely post anything on that, and only if it has been in the news and becomes a political thing. But yet, I am the hater.
Likewise, if a Christian brings up the subject of believing in traditional marriage (such as Mr. Cathy of CFA), he/she is accused of being a bigot.
See how that works?
I will go so far as to state that some of the gay people I know DO in fact shove it in people's faces. I have had to hide FB friends b/c all they post is different stuff related to that topic. That is indeed going too far. How would they feel if all I posted was stuff related to my belief about traditional marriage? I rarely post anything on that, and only if it has been in the news and becomes a political thing. But yet, I am the hater.
Are you allowed to get traditional marriage? If marriage between men and women were illegal and you were fighting for it to be made legal, would you be happy about each advancement that is made? Clearly you have never stopped and looked at it from their perspective or learned anything about your own friends' lifestyles, but it is your facebook and you can block whoever you want, I know I block all those stupid games people play.
Maybe the better definition to look up would be "intolerant."
in·tol·er·ant
[in-tol-er-uhnt]
adjective 1. not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; bigoted.
2. unable or unwilling to tolerate or endure (usually followed by of ): intolerant of very hot weather.
So the better question is not if someone is a bigot, but if they are actually not tolerating or respecting another's beliefs, etc. What many of us are saying is that we treat gay people the say way as anyone else, so how is that being intolerant, and thus, bigoted?
Also, if you want to use your definition coupled with mine, YOUR side is also bigoted since you disagree with our Christian way of life.
Well depending on which particular "Christian way of life" you are referring to(you see I don't subscribe to the idea that there is some monolithic "Christian way of life", unlike many on your side who seem to think all homosexuals are the same) I tolerate your way of life and leave it totally up to you to decide how you wish to live it. What I don't tolerate nearly as well is when you think everyone else should live their lives as you choose to live yours. And what I will absolutely not tolerate is when you seek to have those desires encoded into the laws of the land.
So the better question is not if someone is a bigot, but if they are actually not tolerating or respecting another's beliefs, etc. What many of us are saying is that we treat gay people the say way as anyone else, so how is that being intolerant, and thus, bigoted?
Also, if you want to use your definition coupled with mine, YOUR side is also bigoted since you disagree with our Christian way of life.
You guys aren't treating gays like everyone else. You single gays out as the worst "sin" of them all, while ignoring the multitude of sins that you guys commit on a daily basis and completely ignore. Conservative Christians have the highest rates of divorce, obesity, adultery, pornography viewing (gay and straight), teen pregnancy, abysmal education levels, etc., yet you have the audacity to call out gays?
Get that log out of your own eye before criticizing gays.
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