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Old 08-10-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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The whole brouhaha is over him carrying a Mexican flag. What is wrong with him showing pride for his heritage? He carried the American flag above the other one - and the USOC has no problem with what he did. Do you remember the Black Power salute in 1968. That was egregious - because it was a political statement. This wasn't - it was a joyous and well earned celebration of a great accomplishment.
I don't have a problem with him carrying a mexican flag. I don't have a problem with him being proud of his mexican heritage. I just don't.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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I was referring to the Mexican flag.

Nothing against Mexico personally - but I doubt very much that people "have yearned to wave" the Mexican flag.
Obviously this ******* did, but he's made it clear he thinks he's far too good to have to actually live there. He made a pathetic display and did not make Mexico look good at all.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I don't have a problem with him carrying a mexican flag. I don't have a problem with him being proud of his mexican heritage. I just don't.
Yep - there was nothing wrong with what he did at all.

If he had carried only the Mexican flag - that would be another thing.

Let's get it straight people - Mr. Manzano carried the American flag - because he is an American.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Yep - there was nothing wrong with what he did at all.

If he had carried only the Mexican flag - that would be another thing.

Let's get it straight people - Mr. Manzano carried the American flag - because he is an American.
........and a mexican.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Never thought I'd ever agree with you, but I do on this one. If the USOC is fine with his actions, then end of story.

I still maintain that it was a momentary lapse in poor taste and judgment, but definitely not enough to light up the torches and wield the pitchforks over.
The reason this is rubbing some the wrong way is because this is yet another episode of some Mexican people (certain Mexican people not all) in America commonly showing their great patriotism for Mexico while showing America as secondary. It happens at soccer games, sides they take over Mexico/American political topics and now the games. Americans here see this, while paying free healthcare and welfare to them and loosing jobs to them and feel insulted to a degree.

I have spent time in San Antonio and did not get that impression from people there they were friendly and not overly pro-Mexico, but I have been to El Paso and Phoenix and did.

Other people from other places have showed love to their mother country, Italians, Irish, Cubans, they all do. But people from Mexico seem to be the ones who put Mexico on a pedestal any chance they can and that irks some when America is the place giving them true opportunity, I agree with malumute on this.

I guess I am unique in a sense as I was adopted and know NOTHING of my birth parents. I am blued eyed blondish with fair skin though so it is safe to assume I have kind of European genes in me. But if I found out I was from Sweden or Norway or some place I wouldn't feel any connection to a place I have never known , all I know is I am a American.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The reason this is rubbing some the wrong way is because this is yet another episode of some Mexican people (certain Mexican people not all) in America commonly showing their great patriotism for Mexico while showing America as secondary. It happens at soccer games, sides they take over Mexico/American political topics and now the games. Americans here see this, while paying free healthcare and welfare to them and loosing jobs to them.

I have spent time in San Antonio and did not get that impression from people there they were friendly and not overly pro-Mexico, but I have been to El Paso and Phoenix and did.

Other people from other places have showed love to their mother country, Italians, Irish, Cubans, they all do. But people from Mexico seem to be the ones who put Mexico on a pedestal any chance they can and that irks some when America is the place giving them true opportunity, I agree with malumute on this.

I guess I am unique in a sense as I was adopted and no NOTHING of my birth parents. I am blued eyed blondish with fair skin though so it is safe to assume I have kind of European genes in me. But if I found out I was from Sweden or Norway or some place I wouldn't feel any connection to a place I have never known , all I know is I am a American.
Good post.

Im irish and very proud of my heritage, but kinda like you said Im an American born and raised. The US always comes 1st.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Dual allegiances are suspect.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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........and a mexican.
Well to call him a Mexican would be kind of an insult to the people of Mexico. It's not as though this guy would ever stoop so low as to actually LIVE in that country. He can claim all he likes that he loves Mexico --- from afar, but he's not about to put his money where his mouth is.

But it's an insult to Americans to call him an American also.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: 'Murica
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The reason this is rubbing some the wrong way is because this is yet another episode of some Mexican people (certain Mexican people not all) in America commonly showing their great patriotism for Mexico while showing America as secondary. It happens at soccer games, sides they take over Mexico/American political topics and now the games. Americans here see this, while paying free healthcare and welfare to them and loosing jobs to them and feel insulted to a degree.

I have spent time in San Antonio and did not get that impression from people there they were friendly and not overly pro-Mexico, but I have been to El Paso and Phoenix and did.

Other people from other places have showed love to their mother country, Italians, Irish, Cubans, they all do. But people from Mexico seem to be the ones who put Mexico on a pedestal any chance they can and that irks some when America is the place giving them true opportunity, I agree with malumute on this.

I guess I am unique in a sense as I was adopted and know NOTHING of my birth parents. I am blued eyed blondish with fair skin though so it is safe to assume I have kind of European genes in me. But if I found out I was from Sweden or Norway or some place I wouldn't feel any connection to a place I have never known , all I know is I am a American.
Good post indeed. I definitely don't agree with what Leo did, but malamute is being unnecessarily hostile about it.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When we crack down on this mess, the illegals better take the friggin Mexican flag off there back window of their vehicle and replace it with stars and strips, or be a suspect!
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