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Anyone notice that there's not really any anti-war candidates in both the democrat or repbulican party? Does anyone think what we did to iraq was horrible or the fact that a lot of them are even beating the war drum for iran right now?
Military industrial complex. Google it, learn it, watch Eisenhower's farewell address on it.
They died for nothing because the A**holes in Washington started a war for nothing. Vietnam represented NO THREAT to the US. Read McNamara's autobiography, not far into it he admits we knew little about Vietnam but went anyway. I can only hope there's a special place in hell reserved for those who send good young men off to war for no good reason. Labeling unprovoked offensive invasions/occupations as defending the country is BS, nothing else.
I knew as a high school junior in 1965 that this war was a fool's errand and I'm sure those who created it also knew. The only difference is I couldn't live with myself if I encouraged war for personal profit, there were apparently many who don't suffer that problem.
The peopel in washighton did not want to win the war.Johnson sent in 500,000 men to hold a line and never try to wish, Because we started in on PC wars instead of trying to win them.
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The peopel in washighton did not want to win the war.Johnson sent in 500,000 men to hold a line and never try to wish, Because we started in on PC wars instead of trying to win them.
There was NOTHING to be won in that ill-advised war.
The spread of COMMUNISM! to Vietnam allegedly constituted a threat to the US.
Guess what?
COMMUNISM! did spread to Vietnam and we TRADE with them, a situation that was easily attainable without that useless, inane, asinine war of choice.
And I'm damn sure the scumbags who lined their pockets off the blood of others knew damn well in 1965 that was the case.
Too many people in Washington see the military industrial machine/complex as a way out of our budget problems. It keeps more people working when we're gearing up for and maintaining a war overseas. Government contracts also translates into big donation for certain key members of the house and senate.
Wars have always served the investor classes even if they lose. Just how successful have the major industrial suppliers to the Japanese and Germen imperial armies become during and after WW2 been? Did you ever hear of Mitsubishi or Mercedes Benz? Both were a big part of their respective war machines.
Our economy has been driven by war for the last 70 years. The companies that made huge profits during WW2 did not want to let go of the government’s giant nipple so we declared a “COLD (and sometimes hot) WAR” to keep the money flowing from the middle class to the warmongering investor class. If you look at our otherwise off shored industrial sector the war industries are the only ones paying decent wages and returning huge profits. War production is nothing but a devastating drug for Mammon’s minions and the headiest drug of all is WAR.
Out Defense spending Department is indeed defending the US. It is just not defending all of the US but only those working to supply men, materials and fuel for our wars. The rest of us are having our prosperity squandered for their profits. Additionally the war industries provide some prosperity for the regions where they are located. What would happen to LA, south east Connecticut and many other industrial areas of the country is defense spending was cut and the industries left to find civilian work? This is why Congress continues to fund the warmongers and war profiteers. The Congress Critters do not see an alternative.
We, as citizens, have to realize there are alternatives that keep these people working and these businesses profitable and we have to elect people that realize this as well. Finding these people is going to be difficult because so much of our thinking has been limited by Mammon, Mars and Satan to keep the wars going even though everyone will lose in the end when our unsustainable wasteful spending bankrupts the country and impoverishes the society.
wjtwet - Get real. If we had invaded North Vietnam we would have been in a land war in Asia with China. That would have cost us a lot more to lose and lose we would. Or some idiots would have escalated it into a nucler exchange and neither country would have ever recovered from that.
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to Vietnam allegedly constituted a threat to the US.
