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The Obamacare $700 billion cuts to medicare is law, it is now, it is a certain, it starts 1/1/14
Anything Ryan is taliking about is an idea, a plan, a maybe and if enacted, will not affect anyone 55 years or older.
No one can defend the 700b in cuts to Medicare I'm afraid ..
The trouble here is that the ObamaBots won't ever admit that their man in the WH already has those cuts signed into law ...
Doesn't matter because he has a "D" after his name.
That means he's one of the good guys no matter what he does.
Involve us in an undeclared and unauthorized war with a nation that presented us with no threat whatsoever?
Fine, as long as generational brand loyalty to the Democratic Party isn't challenged.
Blow up the debt paying off political supporters (SEIU, NEA, AFSME) and corporations that outsource American jobs (GE, AOL Time Warner, Dreamworks) while bribing lazy welfare pigs with money confiscated from hard working Americans and future generations?
That's OK too, just don't associate yourself with Republicans because Democrats claim they pay off corporations that outsource American jobs with our tax dollars.
The Obamacare $700 billion cuts to medicare is law, it is now, it is a certain, it starts 1/1/14
Anything Ryan is taliking about is an idea, a plan, a maybe and if enacted, will not affect anyone 55 years or older.
Slaying the $700 Billion Medicare 'Cut' zombie lie
The claim that OBAMACARE cuts $700 BILLION from Medicare is TRUE and the GOOD NEWS is that in doing so, it INCREASES HEALTHCARE FOR SENIORS and AT THE SAME TIME cuts fraud, WASTE and abuse. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office determined that the Medicare provisions in President Obama's health care law would save $700 BILLION over a decade and EXTENDS THE LIFE OF MEDICARE. Extends it EIGHT YEARS.
The ROMNEY-RYAN plan takes $700 BILLION AWAY FROM SENIORS but does NOT use it to fund HEALTH SERVICES for ANYBODY. Yet Republicans in the House voted to strip that $700 Billion FROM SENIORS ENTIRELY. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates under the ROMNEY-RYAN plan new Medicare beneficiaries will pay more than $1,200 OUT OF POCKET by 2030 and more than $5,900 more by 2050 and SHIFT ADDITIONAL COSTS to seniors by RAISING the eligibility age to 67. This NEGATIVELY impacts today's middle-aged, middle class HARD WORKING Americans while giving the wealthiest 1-percent HUGE TAX BREAKS.
Well this is the answer. Republican shills will have to think of another lie now. Anyone who believes the Republicans all of the sudden want to save SS and medicare after decades of trying to kill it have selective memory.
Well this is the answer. Republican shills will have to think of another lie now. Anyone who believes the Republicans all of the sudden want to save SS and medicare after decades of trying to kill it have selective memory.
Now stop and think a minute about the link you provided.
The government hasn't identified any corruption, abuse, fraud and hasn't caught anyone yet BUT has listed $50 billion per year for 10 years in cuts.
How does one budget $500 billion in cuts (to fraud, waste, corruption) when they haven't identified any ?
Fraud, waste and corruption is usually caught during criminal activity and you don't know how much you've lost until you do a count. But our Congress is that smart that they can see into the future to cut $50/billion a year for 10 years in fraud ? Why aren't they cutting the entire $500 billion in "fraud" right away ?
If they know the amount then they must know where it's going..right ?
You got suckered into that one. Pelosi has been touting "fraud" for nearly 3 years now and Congress has done nothing about it. But now they will take their time and cut $50 billion of fraud from the system each year for 10 years ? Do you honestly believe that ?
The truth is that seniors themselves won't be cut but the services, doctors, hospitals they use will get changes, some of which are cuts.
They are freezing plans to medicare advantage.
Hospitals may get reduced payments for readmissions.
A new board will be formed to reduce medicare spending (but they are not allowed to ration)
Payments to providers will be restructured (not increased though).
LOL - the Wyden-Ryan plan is not a voucher system. You don't get a check from the government to purchase a private plan.
The level of misinformation and poor reading comprehension on this issue only serves to highlight as an example of how poor the US education system truly is.
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