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Old 08-31-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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Yes, it was easier during the Republican administration but not because of the Republicans. The economic collapse hadn't fully impacted and outsourcing hadn't yet completed it's course of eliminating American manufacturing jobs.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:40 AM
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Bush failed and Obama failed. The particulars are not important.
The Democrats never obstructed Bush like the republicans have obstructed Obama. You can't deny that.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:10 AM
 
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The Democrats never obstructed Bush like the republicans have obstructed Obama. You can't deny that.
Obama had a majority in both Congress and Senate for two whole years. You can't deny that.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Obama had a majority in both Congress and Senate for two whole years. You can't deny that.
Not two years, about 6 months at most:

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Depending upon which metric is used, Democrats had a super majority for roughly six months which includes the seven weeks between Franken’s swearing-in on July 8 to Ted Kennedy’s death on August 25 and the four months and nine days between Paul Kirk’s swearing-in on September 25, 2009 to his replacement by Scott Brown on February 4, 2010. This was just barely enough time to pass the biggest and most difficult health care legislation in generations; an event that would likely never have happened under any other circumstances. This also happened under the onslaught of every procedural obstruction the Republicans could put in its path.
The Democratic Super Majority Myth | 538 Refugees

When I did a search looking for information on this, there were hundreds of pages talking about this so you can find another source if you don't like the one above. He explained it fairly well in my opinion.

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Old 08-31-2012, 07:35 AM
 
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Whether an individual finds it easy to get a job depends on their job skills and the jobs available where they are. However overall unemployment statistics are a better picture of on aggregate of "how easy" it is to get a job. And there the Bush years were better; no question.

I don't think the roots of the current depression were political, though. They are structural and have to do with the housing bubble (which was, actually, global, as is the economic decline), globalization, etc. Political policies don't start or end depressions like that; they can make them worse or less bad ,though.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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I graduated in May 2001 and let me tell everyone, regardless of the unemployment rate, it was very hard to find a job. And after 9/11, forget it! I didnt get a good job until 2006 and I had to take a much lower salary then I expected.

And yes, we have been in a recession since 2000 and the "recovery" under Bush everyone keeps talking about is a blip in the radar. So we were crap from 2000-2004, good until 2007, and then crap again until today? Sounds like a prolonged recession with a real estate bubble right in the middle.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:48 AM
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It's much easier now for the 2 million illegals who are being handed their new work visas to get a job here now with Obama giving them everything they want, including what's left of our jobs.
You sound like you have been chumped. Just because a foreigner gets a visa it doesn't guarantee a good job.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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Obama is getting a lot of criticism for not doing enough to fix the economy... and rightly so. But seriously... was it really that much better when Bush was in office? I struggled for a year and a half after graduating from school, unable to find a job, eventually settling for something far less than ideal. This was in 2004 and 2005.

I think it's just tough to get a job no matter who is in office. How much better do Republicans realistically expect things to be if Romney wins?
Voters aren't always rationale.

Remember Bill Clintons campaign strategy? "It's the economy stupid."

Were you one of the people blaming Bush for high oil prices in 2008?

Not everything is controlable by a president and not only did Obama inherit a tough situation, so did Bush and so did Clinton etc.

There have been numerous financial gains etc. bubbling the US economy along under both parties....for decades. Deficit spending, loose credit, stock market etc etc etc.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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I graduated in May 2001 and let me tell everyone, regardless of the unemployment rate, it was very hard to find a job. And after 9/11, forget it! I didnt get a good job until 2006 and I had to take a much lower salary then I expected.

And yes, we have been in a recession since 2000 and the "recovery" under Bush everyone keeps talking about is a blip in the radar. So we were crap from 2000-2004, good until 2007, and then crap again until today? Sounds like a prolonged recession with a real estate bubble right in the middle.
Have a look at official unemployment rates, historically (you can plug in dates)

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

The only other time the postwar unemployment rate got as high as during this depression was in 1982/83, and that didn't last as long. But there was a definite rise in late 2001 and incomplete recovery to the pre-recession low in unemployment.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:54 AM
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When you join a political party you become responsible for what that party stands for. The lack of morality of the Democratic party is what I left about 10 years ago. I could no longer look the other way from the party platform.

The Democratic Party has destroyed itself and it is now trying to destroy America. I want no part of that corruption on my conscience.

For what doeth it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?
I disagree the Republicans are tearing everything apart with their lack of Community spirit.
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