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Old 08-16-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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It didn't stop Christians from doing it, did it? Never mind the various atrocities called for by the Old Testament.

Bad people are bad, whether they are Christians or atheists. They will always seek a way to legitimize the bad things they do. If that mean citing some obscure scripture to justify murder, so be it. If it means adopting a nihilistic perspective born from atheism, so be it.
So you admit that you are completely unfamiliar with the Gospel. If you read the words of Christ, you would see that what Christ says is the final word. There are things from the Old Testament that were changed by Christ.

The bottom line is, if you are truly a Christian, you believe you are accountable for your actions on earth.

There is no accountability with atheism.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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>2) you think atheists care.<

The OP, your response, this thread, and all the lawsuits against anything Christmas, shows all too many do.
When all else fails...revert back to the fabricated war on Christmas.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Nice try, but I move to strike your post as unresponsive and irrelevant.
You said that society would be better off without any type of relgious guidenence, but you have not read the Gospel, so how do you know this to be true?
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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So you admit that you are completely unfamiliar with the Gospel. If you read the words of Christ, you would see that what Christ says is the final word. There are things from the Old Testament that were changed by Christ.
That doesn't justify why the Old Testament contained not just questionable, but blatantly evil teachings, supposedly ordained by God.

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The bottom line is, if you are truly a Christian, you believe you are accountable for your actions on earth.

There is no accountability with atheism.
Why must there be divine "accountability"? Are you suggesting that Christians are only moral so they can reach heaven and avoid hell -- enlightened self interest, not altruism?
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Where does Atheism?
Why wouldn't they? Maybe you wouldn't, but maybe you're a coward.

It all depends on perspective.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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Just proves that more and more Americans are growing up and learning to think for themselves.
I don't see it reflected in politics. There is more acceptance of gays, but now Muslims have become the scapegoats. We're more warlike now. Among the elite establishment, it's just a take as fact we are allowed to attack other countries. Civil liberties are being taken away as well. Torture is now something we do.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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That doesn't justify why the Old Testament contained not just questionable, but blatantly evil teachings, supposedly ordained by God.



Why must there be divine "accountability"? Are you suggesting that Christians are only moral so they can reach heaven and avoid hell -- enlightened self interest, not altruism?
That's why Jesus came down to rectify this situation.

Of course that's sometimes the case. Isn't a common argument made by atheism, that relgion was just a mechanism to control the masses?

I can assure you that if those who are impoverished, those that you have stolen from in order to live the extravagent lifestyle you are accustomed to, would have no problem taking you out if they didn't believe there were any consequences.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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Most communists are against religion and profess atheism. Soviet Union and China introduced state atheism. Don't think for a second these lunatic communist wouldn't love to see that here in the USofA. Back in the early nineteen hundreds if you were a member of the russian orthodox church you were most likely shot or sent off to the gulag. Communists see things like this thread and think it's a good thing. Sad is what it and they are.
Boy you're big on the "Communists". Like something out of the 1950's....LOL

Are you 90 years old?
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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So you admit that you are completely unfamiliar with the Gospel. If you read the words of Christ, you would see that what Christ says is the final word. There are things from the Old Testament that were changed by Christ.

The bottom line is, if you are truly a Christian, you believe you are accountable for your actions on earth.

There is no accountability with atheism.
Your thinking comes from indoctrination. Furthermore, you self-righteous attitude is just another reason why people think that many religious people are truly ignorant. Why is it that it is more often than not it is the Liberal or Progressive athteist that gives a damn about protesting wars and enforcing environmental regulations?
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Why not? Without God, there is ultimately no accountability. I don't know much about other religions outside of Christianity, but Christianity (or the words of Christ) emphasize, discipline, selflessness, humility, and respect.

This is contradictory to what contemporary society values, such as self gratification, narcissism, selfishness, hatred, and lust.

Hey man, it's easy to be an atheist. You can do whatever the hell you want, as long as you don't get caught.

No need to feel guilty. No need to treat everyone with respect.

Just make sure you get yours and you get that money.
Poppycock. It's called Ethics. The Golden Rule. It predates the Bible. We don't need your morality.

Christians in the USA are more likely to support war and the death penalty. You're the most cruel people in Western society.
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