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We tried to fix it in 2010 by getting rid of Pulosi and will continue the improvement in 2012. With Obama in the WH, I just hope we can keep him neutralized without his failed policies and leadership making things worse.
It may be 3 months or 4 more years but until we get someone in the WH who no longer wants to destruct the US the best we can do is keep him powerless. It would be great to actually start on the road to improvement sooner than later.
I have not heard our great leader offer us any Ideas on improving the US during the election.
Did you catch Ryan's Florida speech this morning ? At least they've started a dialog, it's up to us the voters to move it forward.
Reality check, congresses approval rating has been quite low, for some time. Notice that after the 2010 election, it dropped lower?
Only 10% approve of the job congress is doing. That ties the lowest ever. There is bipartisan disdain for congress. More than half from a recent poll show that this current congress could be the worst congress ever in the history of the U.S.
It is hard to nail down why americans hate the Paul Ryan HOuse and the Harry Reed Senate, but it may have something to do with the partisan nature. Instead of getting anything done it is just gamesmanship.
Interesting, I've only approved of about 10% of what any congress has done since as far back as I can remember. To me, the problem is that we (the voters) send these people off to represent us, and then stop paying attention to what they are doing with that representation. Unfortunately, once they are in Washington, even the most devoted representative gets swamped by the special interests and stops representing the people who sent him/her there in the first place. In my opinion, this is far more upsetting than the partisan bickering that is nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problems.
Think about it, when it comes to the core issues most voters want the same things, which is what the nation's founders stated in the Declaration of Independence: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Our political system has turned that idea into a joke. Life and Liberty are out the window when you spend the majority of that Life with no Liberty because you are working for someone else in order to pay for basic living expenses. And Pursuit of Happiness apparently has turned into "You can only be happy if you do it in such a way that you conform to the so-called norm." And in the midst of all this, we have politicians telling us that they're doing their best to represent our values.
And for some reason, we all seem to sit back and accept the abuse of our government while making excuses for them. Human folly, I suppose.
Interesting, I've only approved of about 10% of what any congress has done since as far back as I can remember. To me, the problem is that we (the voters) send these people off to represent us, and then stop paying attention to what they are doing with that representation. Unfortunately, once they are in Washington, even the most devoted representative gets swamped by the special interests and stops representing the people who sent him/her there in the first place. In my opinion, this is far more upsetting than the partisan bickering that is nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problems.
Think about it, when it comes to the core issues most voters want the same things, which is what the nation's founders stated in the Declaration of Independence: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Our political system has turned that idea into a joke. Life and Liberty are out the window when you spend the majority of that Life with no Liberty because you are working for someone else in order to pay for basic living expenses. And Pursuit of Happiness apparently has turned into "You can only be happy if you do it in such a way that you conform to the so-called norm." And in the midst of all this, we have politicians telling us that they're doing their best to represent our values.
And for some reason, we all seem to sit back and accept the abuse of our government while making excuses for them. Human folly, I suppose.
The problem is hypocrisy.
Just the other day, Clarksville and the Governor of Tennessee announced that, with a federal building grant, we are going to extend a river walk in Clarksville. Just a few hundred thousand dollars, but still, federal funds for a local project, supported by Republicans.
Just like Ryan, claiming that federal funds didn't create any jobs, but he fought hard for millions of dollars in his state, to "create jobs", his words, not mine.
Then you've got the democrats who blame the Republicans for wanting to gut medicare, gut social security, throw people out of homes, make people go hungry at a time when we have more government "handouts" to individuals in history, and they haven't put forward any plan to save those programs. They had one, Simpson-Bowles, but they sure as hell didn't do anything with it.
So, both sides are hypocrites, both sides are broken, but people like their congressmen individually, because they get them free stuff.
When you are saying "our" history you are saying "our" in the big picture of the entire history of the country right?
But as to your arguement. The approval rating absolutely sucked when it was a Reid Congress and Pelosi House also. But yeah, I suppose one could argue that was because of a complete lack of bi- partisanship there also.
But its alot worse under the Bohner House and Reid Senate.
We tried to fix it in 2010 by getting rid of Pulosi and will continue the improvement in 2012. With Obama in the WH, I just hope we can keep him neutralized without his failed policies and leadership making things worse.
It may be 3 months or 4 more years but until we get someone in the WH who no longer wants to destruct the US the best we can do is keep him powerless. It would be great to actually start on the road to improvement sooner than later.
I guess you missed the part where the approval rating of Congress dropped after 2010.
The left, right arguments and insults across party lines (see City Data) is indicative of what is wrong with America and why it is rapidly declining. Unless and until we have a viable third party option and institute term limits, this country will continue to be in decline.
I'm not going to try and argue over minor differences in suckiness.
You are wise to leave your original argument. The divisive nature of this congress has hit all time lows. Both sides seem to care more about political victory than they do about what is good for the U.S. Maybe the answer is to get rid of all Republicans and Democrats...vote all 3rd party candidates. Give someone else a shot.
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The problem is hypocrisy.
Just the other day, Clarksville and the Governor of Tennessee announced that, with a federal building grant, we are going to extend a river walk in Clarksville. Just a few hundred thousand dollars, but still, federal funds for a local project, supported by Republicans.
Just like Ryan, claiming that federal funds didn't create any jobs, but he fought hard for millions of dollars in his state, to "create jobs", his words, not mine.
Then you've got the democrats who blame the Republicans for wanting to gut medicare, gut social security, throw people out of homes, make people go hungry at a time when we have more government "handouts" to individuals in history, and they haven't put forward any plan to save those programs. They had one, Simpson-Bowles, but they sure as hell didn't do anything with it.
So, both sides are hypocrites, both sides are broken, but people like their congressmen individually, because they get them free stuff.
Yep, that's about it in a nutshell, and the rest of the "noise" is just so much spin to explain away the disconnect. Or as it's often pointed out, a politician's real job, is basically just to get re-elected!
Although IMO, that is a cute little trick that conservatives and the Tea Party pull now, by demonizing Dems and Obama (as Socialists, Commies, Tyrants, etc.!), to the point that they can pretend the GOP's "no-compromise, do-nothing, we want them to fail" strategy, is almost "patriotic" (...LOL)!!
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