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Read the thread and it will be proved - you are operating on emotion and not reason - so your misinformation seems factual to you- most likely. Until you can read the thread objectively and understand where I am coming from - you aren't going to see how hurtful and vicious the lies and misinformation that you and others have been posting are - or how they are perceived.
So - no i will not take an hour of my time to do something that you can do yourself. Just understand that I am truly upset - and have a legitamate complaint. My character has been attacked - and my patience has been worn thin. I will not be further insulted by being asked to do what you can do yourself - which is to read the thread.
What was the point of this thread? Say we all accept the link you posted as accurate, so what? Women, in general, aren't going to get married out of fear for their physical safety. Perhaps this was the case 100 years ago when a single woman had no means to support and defend herself if not married. Women today will marry, or not, based on many things, but to have a man to protect them is not one of them.
So, why did you start this thread? Was it just to point out crime statistics? Was there some other point to it all?
We've already shown in this forum that, statistically, the safest place for any child is living with his married biological parents. The overwhelming majority of abuse is perpetrated against children living with just one biological parent, typically the mother - whether alone, co-habitating, or married to someone unrelated to the child.
It seems that traditional marriage is also the safest place for women. While researching something else, I came across this statistic pertaining to female victims of sexual assault in 1994:
Rate of sexual assault for women (1994) per 100,000
Divorced or separated - 9.1
Never married - 7.0
Widowed - 1.2
Married - 1.1
So a woman who is divorced or separated is 9 times more likely to be a victim of sexual assault, and a never married woman 7 times more likely, than a married woman living with her husband.
Fascinating, isn't it? Men protect their wives and children, and the bad guys leave them alone.
There is no baseless attack made on you in that post.
Yes there is - why would you assume that your post "made me uncomfortable"? You implied that i thought rape was OK. You can't hardly be more vicious than that.
You can't hide that you didn't come right out and say it either - don't "spin" your statement. You may have been careless - but it is was still wrong.
Read the thread and it will be proved - you are operating on emotion and not reason - so your misinformation seems factual to you- most likely. Until you can read the thread objectively and understand where I am coming from - you aren't going to see how hurtful and vicious the lies and misinformation that you and others have been posting are - or how they are perceived.
So - no i will not take an hour of my time to do something that you can do yourself. Just understand that I am truly upset - and have a legitamate complaint. My character has been attacked - and my patience has been worn thin. I will not be further insulted by being asked to do what you can do yourself - which is to read the thread.
Good day.
Translation: I got nothin'. Me me me me me.
News flash: This thread isn't about you. It's about a false premise that marriage protects against rape. It's also about perceptions regarding rape -- the victim and the rapist. There have been statements in this thread that either purposefully or through ineptitude have suggested that women (through inebriation, marital status, clothing, or otherwise) are in someway responsible for being the victims of rape. We have rightfully and deservedly attacked those statements as false and hurtful.
Your posts were, at some points, seen to be defending the position that women are responsible. You as well as the OP have cried "victim!" and then attacked posters for being hateful, which we are not, and men haters, which we are not.
So good day to you, too...and please realize you are not the only person involved with this thread who has been hurt and extremely angered.
The percentage range of 30-79% is a huge range that would leave most researchers extremely cautious about drawing any conclusions. And the studies were about college students, not the general population. So I think you're mixing apples with oranges here. You cannot draw conclusions about the general population from studies of college students. The lifestyles and experiences of college students are markedly different from the general population.
Agreed about the caution in drawing conclusions, but if some studies show 50-79%, that is alarming and not to be dismissed.
The Abbey study of college students is just one study evaluated by the researchers. The claim made in the NIAAA report, which Dr. Abbey also contributed to, referred to the general population, not just college students:
"Similarly, approximately one-half of allsexual assault victims report that they were drinking alcohol at the time of the assault, with estimates ranging from 30 to 79 percent (Abbey et al. 1994; Crowell and Burgess 1996)."
Yes, the reason was to highlight one of the social benefits of marriage. I thought that was clear. Marriage changes human behavior in positive ways. Married women don't find themselves in harms' way as often as unmarried women do. Married men tend to treat women with more respect. Etc. Yes, there are exceptions and you can throw anecdotes at me all day long, but once again we're talking about probabilities, not guarantees, and those probabilities are strongly supported by the data I have presented.
Although unmarried people aren't "bad" because they are unmarried, what is bad is the attitude that marriage is purely a personal thing and shouldn't matter to society at large. But as I've shown, it does matter to society, and the decline of marriage creates all kinds of problems that society needs to address.
Here's where we part ways. You believe that people should marry for the good of society. I do not. People should marry if they find someone they believe will be a worthy mate based on whatever criteria they prefer. Society has long put pressure on both women and men to marry. And what has that gained us? A divorce rate in excess of 50%. How is that good for society? Is an unmarried women a bigger detriment to society than a divorced mother or father of 3?
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