U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:30 AM
 
10,312 posts, read 2,641,083 times
Reputation: 7073

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtl1 View Post
PC is just leftist authoritarian puppet masters dictating what everyone can and can't say. What could possibly be wrong with that? That's a tuffy.
The FCC has been censoring network TV for decades now, even nowadays, ive never once heard anyone complaining about this or anyone calling for them to end this censorship. Its very strange to me that so many people seem to be ok with the federal govt regulating what it moral and immoral when it comes to television..??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
29,824 posts, read 16,522,506 times
Reputation: 22406
Quote:
Originally Posted by skycaller23 View Post
So instead of politicians "lying", they "misspeak" ?
Illegal immigrants are merely "undocumented" immigrants as if they forgot their papers at home and all is ok.
Universities issuing lists of words that students cannot use is more than "good manners".

PC is changing words so as not to face the truth and has nothing to do with politeness or manners.
That is YOUR definition. Everyone seems to have their own definition. Another issue with the whole "PC' label.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:33 AM
 
Location: WY
5,211 posts, read 3,741,519 times
Reputation: 5888
Well THIS thread is a blast from the past. What I find most interesting about this thread (aside from the obvious ie: nothing ever gets finalized on these types of forums - both sides just keep arguing ad nauseum and forever) is what issues we were and weren't arguing about six years ago.

Think about it. Six years ago law enforcement officers weren't jack booted thugs with guns, killing every black kid on every street corner in the US just because they enjoyed abusing their power. Six years ago we weren't arguing about whether or not it was OK for males to shower with females in public school locker rooms. Six years ago we didn't know that abortion providers were selling body parts. Six years ago refugees from "Sh*thole Countries" weren't invading Europe. Six years ago a little boy hadn't gotten in trouble for eating his Poptart into the shape of a gun. Six years ago women in Hollywood were still giving it up and allowing themselves to be abused and intimidated by a monster, so that they could get a part in a movie. Six years ago Al Gore was still telling us that the icebergs would all be melting by 2017.

Six years ago there were no such terms as White Privilege, Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Nasty Woman, Deplorables. #MeToo. There were no pink Pu$$y Hats, Safe Spaces, Triggers, Micro-aggressions or Snowflakes.

My, how far we've come since the time of the original OP in this thread.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:34 AM
 
2,215 posts, read 739,585 times
Reputation: 1376
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
That is YOUR definition. Everyone seems to have their own definition. Another issue with the whole "PC' label.
PC is changing words so as not to be "offensive" but society has gone beyond that.

Lying is now misspeaking or mischaracterization. It's lying and is a crime when it's done in a Congressional hearing but since they only "misspoke" then it's not a crime ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:38 AM
Status: "I'm an Unmherkun puppy-kicking Socialist" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
3,996 posts, read 2,102,875 times
Reputation: 3741
Quote:
Originally Posted by skycaller23 View Post
So instead of politicians "lying", they "misspeak" ?
Illegal immigrants are merely "undocumented" immigrants as if they forgot their papers at home and all is ok.
Universities issuing lists of words that students cannot use is more than "good manners".

PC is changing words so as not to face the truth and has nothing to do with politeness or manners.
Everybody in the world who has the slightest ability to understand subtext knows "undocumented immigrants" is a euphemism for "illegal immigrant". The "softening up" of language is necessary in our society because so many people tend to heap the same intensity of scorn on such people that they often reserve for burglars and petty vandals and low-level grand larceny. Even these crimes still carry a lot of stigma, even if well short of murder. This is clearly a disproportionate reaction toward people who simply want to feed their families back home or make better lives for themselves - especially if they are merely taking jobs most native-born US people won't take anyway.

"Undocumented immigrant" signals that such people should not be treated in the same way and with the same stigma as clearly destructive wrongdoers like I just mentioned.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
29,824 posts, read 16,522,506 times
Reputation: 22406
Quote:
Originally Posted by skycaller23 View Post
PC is changing words so as not to be "offensive" but society has gone beyond that.

Lying is now misspeaking or mischaracterization. It's lying and is a crime when it's done in a Congressional hearing but since they only "misspoke" then it's not a crime ?
Again, this is all YOU. No one other than YOU is saying that 'lying' is 'misspeaking'.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:39 AM
 
10,729 posts, read 13,638,481 times
Reputation: 6233
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Nothing. The argument against PC boils down to "I want to sound like an A-hole, but don't want the dirty looks that follow."

As with all things, it is a question of degree. I'm a liberal, but when it comes to things like these made up gender pronouns and expecting people to abide by them...it's gone a bit too far.

What the right wing media factory does is grasp onto those kind of absurd extremes, send them all over the place on the internet and talk radio, and then they are used as justification to elect a clown like Trump as a reaction to something that is perceived as a massive problem, when it's really just an isolated one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:49 AM
 
2,215 posts, read 739,585 times
Reputation: 1376
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Again, this is all YOU. No one other than YOU is saying that 'lying' is 'misspeaking'.
You don't read the news much I guess. Plenty of politicians say they "misspoke" when confronted with the lies they told earlier.

Recent: McConnell said he "misspoke" when he lied about the tax plan.
Old: Hillary said she "misspoke" when she lied about dodging bullets.

Plenty of politicians lie and get away with it.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-ji...b_1910335.html

Politiciansí words were distorted, misrepresented, twisted, exaggerated, or taken out of context. They overstated, understated, or misstated. But, of course, politicians never lie, at least thatís what they say.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
8,041 posts, read 2,756,221 times
Reputation: 4317
Quote:
Originally Posted by MLSFan View Post
people think being offended = being harassed...

that's my issue with PC, people don't know how to take opposing views and even if they are offended by it, can't separate it from a personal attack


At some point PC jumped the shark.

When it went from just being more thoughtful and polite to being considered mandatory, some people began to buy into the concept that they had some sort of right to never be offended by anything.....ever.

When PC moved into that realm of ridiculousness, people stopped taking the concept seriously.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
3,993 posts, read 2,045,326 times
Reputation: 1903
PC is not free speech and is just plain lying.


Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
I keep hearing certain people complain about the term as if it's a bad thing. What's wrong with using language without offending a particular group of people? Those who have a problem with "PC" seems to demonstrate that it's a threat to free speech and has an affinity to tyranny. First of all, free speech only protects you from state persecution. It doesn't protect you from public backlash.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:06 AM.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top