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Old 08-24-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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As a note, the hospital was perfectly willing to recognize the couple's status on the admitting forms when told that Simonelli's insurance would be paying for Leon's hospital bills.
Funny how that works.

I've known some same-sex couples who have refused to get married or civil-unioned or domestic-partnered because one of them was on SSDI and/or Medicaid, and an official partnership would have jeopardized those benefits.

I wonder what SSM-hating conservatives would have to say about that.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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That's not cool.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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A lawsuit will not turn back time and allow this woman to be there to offer emotional support to her partner during a life changing medical emergency.

This is the reason that marriage needs to be allowed for same sex couples.
No, marriage rights should be fought for civil unions.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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It was an emergency.

And if married couples don't have to have special documentation, and civil unions are supposed to have the same status as marriage by law, then why would civil union partners need special documentation.

As a note, the hospital was perfectly willing to recognize the couple's status on the admitting forms when told that Simonelli's insurance would be paying for Leon's hospital bills.
So?

20 years ago I was POA and caregiver for a friend who was dying. He took care of things, like an intelligent person does. I wasn't denied anything. I was not a relative, not a lover. Just a friend.

Only fools wait until emergencies to do something. It's called 'planning'.

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Had the same sex partners taken care of medical powers of attorney and had the documentation on file with the hospital and attending physicians as well as in the patient's chart, is this a scenario which was preventable? I suspect it may have.
Yes, but they seem to be too dumb to realize this.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Had the same sex partners taken care of medical powers of attorney and had the documentation on file with the hospital and attending physicians as well as in the patient's chart, is this a scenario which was preventable? I suspect it may have.
The law in Nevada says that a domestic partnership is to be granted ALL the same rights as marriage. When a couple are married in Nevada they have the right to visitation, and to make medical decisions for their spouse. How many married spouses have a medical POA on file with hospitals.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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No, marriage rights should be fought for civil unions.
Obviously you didn't read the link. In Nevada domestic partnerships are supposed to be granted the same rights as marriage ALREADY.

We can see how well THAT is working out.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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So?

20 years ago I was POA and caregiver for a friend who was dying. He took care of things, like an intelligent person does. I wasn't denied anything. I was not a relative, not a lover. Just a friend.

Only fools wait until emergencies to do something. It's called 'planning'.


Yes, but they seem to be too dumb to realize this.
Only fools expect the hospital to obey the law??? By law, these two women are relatives. They are spouses, by law. They have the paperwork that shows that they have legally been joined by a civil union. They even offered to get that paperwork.

They were legally entitled to the same treatment as a married couple.

The hospital broke the law in treating them differently. The couple has no intention of suing, they only want the hospital to change its policy so that the hospital is in accordance with the law.
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