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Old 08-21-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Gone
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what he said ^^^^^
He is a She, look closer at their handle. Just so ya know.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Yes, that's been my experience as well. Not all conservatives are that way, but most seem to hold contempt for certain groups, and use them as scapegoats. Instead of dealing with a problem as it stands, they'd rather blame the problem on a certain group.
I really don't think conservatives are particularly hateful people by nature. Perhaps a bit dogmatic and close-minded. However, they do seem to be quite vulnerable to this style of demagoguery. Guys like Rush Limbaugh have to create phony straw men to rage against, and the people (usually older or young macho white guys) tend to be easily whipped into a lather. They think they are rational, but they are actually very easily manipulated. Witness all the anti-gay marriage stuff. I mean really, what does two gay peoples' lives and freedoms have to do with YOUR marriage? Nothing, but emotional people are easily duped into acting shamefully.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I really don't think conservatives are particularly hateful people by nature. Perhaps a bit dogmatic and close-minded.
Well, studies do show that they are more motivated by negative emotions then positive ones.

http://www.sciencecodex.com/read/the..._the_bad-83895
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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I really don't think conservatives are particularly hateful people by nature. Perhaps a bit dogmatic and close-minded. However, they do seem to be quite vulnerable to this style of demagoguery. Guys like Rush Limbaugh have to create phony straw men to rage against, and the people (usually older or young macho white guys) tend to be easily whipped into a lather. They think they are rational, but they are actually very easily manipulated. Witness all the anti-gay marriage stuff. I mean really, what does two gay peoples' lives and freedoms have to do with YOUR marriage? Nothing, but emotional people are easily duped into acting shamefully.
Well I can't say for the rich right and or the radio right, but i get pretty mean and rotten when i find trail pissers who leave 'paper' smack dead center in the trail. i don't really find the pisser's right away, but i save the papers and give them back to the first like offenders when i find them, which appears to be upsetting to said trail pissers.

I am about the same with litterbugs. If you must throw out trash please aim the trash at a dumpster. The last time i saw canoeist trashing the place when they were not looking, I filled their canoe with all the trash i could find on the beach and boy there was plenty. Then i told the cops about a canoe full of trash so there was no dumping it out.

As to gays and Gar Rights.... That looks like the next national train wreck to me and all sort of law no one has yet even thought about, 4 way divorce and who knows what new disease, mental illness and a whole bunch of hokey bung and moo.

So long as it makes no new laws for me, and costs me nothing, I don't have to see it, I don't care.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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You're only *now* realizing this? With all due respect, this "hijacking" has been going on for the past 30 years, ever since the Moral Majority stepped out of the pulpit and into politics.
Especially since UNTIL 30 yrs ago..... the GOP supported gay marriage, global warming, drug legalization, porn, legalized prostitution and abortion

They only started to be against these things around 30 yrs ago...... prior to that they were completely for these things

The cluelessness of the left on this site is staggering

The GOP has been hijacked..... by the big corps, trickle down theorists and neo cons...... NOT by social conservatives
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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Well, studies do show that they are more motivated by negative emotions then positive ones.

The biology of politics: Liberals roll with the good, conservatives confront the bad | Science Codex
With all the negative adds by Obama it must apply to the dems as well.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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It hasn't been hijacked is has been assimilated.


















"We are the Koch Brothers. Resistance is Futile"
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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With all the negative adds by Obama it must apply to the dems as well.
No. Obama's ads are targeted at moderates and swing voters, not at liberals.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I was seriously (and still am) considering voting for Romney/Ryan this fall. I have supported other GOP candidates in the past, even though I am an independent. In my college years I ardently embraced the economic principles forwarded by Friedman, monetarists, and the Chicago School. One of the reasons I was attracted to the GOP was there common-sense approach to economic and fiscal policies. However, the Akin comments this past weekend underscore my dissatisfaction with the GOP. I know that Romney and Ryan and most other Republicans have distanced themselves from Akin's comments, but I can't help but feel this party is moving away from right-thinking economic principles that will benefit everyone to a cheap populism tinged with fringe yet amplified religious beliefs that are alien to most educated Americans.

This is not the party I once supported; Barry Goldwater would not recognize this party.
The Akin thing doesn't have the slightest thing to do with fiscal policies.

Who do you think you're kidding?
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Especially since UNTIL 30 yrs ago..... the GOP supported gay marriage, global warming, drug legalization, porn, legalized prostitution and abortion

They only started to be against these things around 30 yrs ago...... prior to that they were completely for these things

The cluelessness of the left on this site is staggering

The GOP has been hijacked..... by the big corps, trickle down theorists and neo cons...... NOT by social conservatives
Before you accuse me of cluelessness, I invite you to learn more about the history of the neoconservative movement, starting with Paul Weyrich and Irving Kristol. They specifically cite the influence of fundamentalist Christians in the GOP post-1980.

In the words of preacher James Robson in 1980: "Iím sick and tired of hearing about
[LEFT]all of the radicals, and the perverts, and the liberals, and the leftists, and the Communists
coming out of the closet! Itís time for Godís people to come out of the closet, out of the[/LEFT]
churches, and change America! We must do it!"
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In the words of Paul Weyrich: "The conservative movement, up to that point, was essentially an intellectual movement. It had some very powerful thinkers, but it didnít have many troops. And as Stalin said of the Pope, ďwhere are his divisions?Ē. Well, we didnít have many divisions. When these folks became active, all of a sudden the conservative movement had lots of divisions. We were able to move literally millions of people. And this is something that we had literally no ability to do prior to that
time."
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