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Old 08-21-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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That's certainly an interesting perspective. I seriously doubt most Republicans would call Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan 'progressives'. And I don't think I've ever heard anyone call the modern-day Republican Party a center-left party. You're the first.
That's because most people take the platitudes and empty promises from GOP/Democrat candidates and look no further. If you look at the actual governing philosophy of the GOP over the past 2 decades you'll see a distinct leftward march. The GOP used to be the party of individual liberty and small government and those are still their alleged and professed principles. Yet actions speak much louder than words.

The GOP brought us:
the airline bailout
TARP
Medicare part D
the "Patriot" Act
the Afghanistan and the Iraq war
the never ending war on terror
warrantless wiretapping
stimulus packages
No Child Left Behind


Republicans also voted for:
Obamacare (and Romney's healthcare plan in MA was the brainchild that sparked Obamacare)
NDAA
the auto bailouts
Obama's stimulus

The Democrats and the left may feign outrage and shock over Paul Ryan's "extreme" plan for the budget and Medicare but I just shake my head. First of all Ryan's budget doesn't actually cut a dime, it just slows future increases and Ryan takes these "savings" and puts them towards military spending. Also the debate over Medicare is only over how it should be funded, it's basically an accounting debate. There is no more fundamental debate over the role of government or if Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, etc. is even Constitutional or proper. The GOP at one point and time stood against the New Deal and big government but now they don't even debate the role of government. They just squabble over how it should be funded and how large it should be allowed to grow.

The GOP may talk a good game but they don't have the track record to back it up. When push comes to shove they'll, as Paul Ryan puts it, "offend" their "principles" to "save their principles." Or as GW Bush put the GOP will "abandon the free market to save the free market."
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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Beery Gpooldwater never really contolled the national cimmitee.After he wqas soundly defeated the party chnage;reagn was never has far right as goldwater was.Its the same as Clinto rrpresents the middle of democratic party and Obama the left.Obama actually gained control of the committeee and it was a nice meeetings to form the platform exactly.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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If you look at the actual governing philosophy of the GOP over the past 2 decades you'll see a distinct leftward march. The GOP used to be the party of individual liberty and small government and those are still their alleged and professed principles.
Really?

Eisenhower raised the top income tax rate to 91%

Nixon established the EPA.

Reagan raised taxes on income, gasoline, and Social Security.

There's no way Republicans would support those things today. Most people would say the party has moved to the right, not the left.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:48 PM
 
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Common tactic used by the left - I was considering voting for the conservative but...
Yes -- and first some will complain that there is no real difference between the parties, then some will complain there is a difference between the parties.
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