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Old 08-23-2012, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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No it isn't - there can hardly be a more irresponsible or selfish act than destroying a human life because allowing it to live would be inconvenient.

If one cannot afford to raise a child or do not want a child then they should be abstinent. Sex should not take place outside marriage - the welfare of a child is the reason why - a marriage ideally provides the stability, environment for growth, and essential teachers that a child needs - this is also why marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman - the child needs both male and female influences in order to develop normally.

Abortion s not the only option if people have made a mistake - adoption is a responsible choice.

But the left has thrown common sense out the window, so that they can perform social experiments , and behave irresponsibly - the welfare of children be damned.

Its all about them.
But the human sex drive is strong. Do you advocate trying to discourage practice of it by making it a felony to have sex unless it is with the intention of having a child and keeping it, along with making it a felony to indulge in sex outside of marriage? You love to talk in idealistic terms, but are you willing to use the force of law to try to enforce it?
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I love how that only applies to one gender.
One gender? Not at all - a man has a responsibility to not impregnate a woman - often times it is men who pressure a woman into having an abortion because they don't want the responsibility of being a father. Those men should have thought about that before they took their pants off.

But of course you are using the time honored dishonest tactic of the left - make assumptions about your opponent and then state them as if they are true. Too bad that I am aware of your scheming and fully prepared to counter it.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Do you advocate trying to discourage practice of it by making it a felony to have sex unless it is with the intention of having a child and keeping it, along with making it a felony to indulge in sex outside of marriage?
No.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Or are you arguing that people shouldn't ever get divorced, either?
I am.

Marriage is a lifelong comittment.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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No it isn't - there can hardly be a more irresponsible or selfish act than destroying a human life because allowing it to live would be inconvenient.

If one cannot afford to raise a child or do not want a child then they should be abstinent. Sex should not take place outside marriage - the welfare of a child is the reason why - a marriage ideally provides the stability, environment for growth, and essential teachers that a child needs - this is also why marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman - the child needs both male and female influences in order to develop normally.

Abortion s not the only option if people have made a mistake - adoption is a responsible choice.

But the left has thrown common sense out the window, so that they can perform social experiments , and behave irresponsibly - the welfare of children be damned.

Its all about them.
Oh no it isn't. It's all about YOU. YOUR morals. YOUR religious beliefs. YOUR notions of responsibility. And ultimately it's all your desire to legislate according to such narrow criteria.

So much for getting government off our backs.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I am.

Marriage is a lifelong comittment.
Have fun in your idealistic utopia. Let the rest of us know when you find anyplace on earth that fits your expectations.

The rest of us just try to make the best of REALITY.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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I am.

Marriage is a lifelong comittment.
Marriage is a lifelong commitment according to some religions.

It's clearly NOT a lifelong commitment according to the law.

So your position is that it's right to force others to comply to your religious beliefs?
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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No.
OK, so make sure you always practice what you preach. Too many preachers don't.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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One gender? Not at all - a man has a responsibility to not impregnate a woman - often times it is men who pressure a woman into having an abortion because they don't want the responsibility of being a father. Those men should have thought about that before they took their pants off.

But of course you are using the time honored dishonest tactic of the left - make assumptions about your opponent and then state them as if they are true. Too bad that I am aware of your scheming and fully prepared to counter it.
What you are aware of would fill a very tiny thimble.

When men get pregnant then men can tell the world their thoughts on abortion. Go back to telling us about "legitimate" rape and losing another dozen elections as the sane vote against you.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Have fun in your idealistic utopia. Let the rest of us know when you find anyplace on earth that fits your expectations.

The rest of us just try to make the best of REALITY.
The reality is that their are plenty of people who believe as i do - in fact they are in the majority.

Why are you advocating for the destruction of society? Marriage is the foundation of family - and the family is the building block of human society. When you compromise the structural integity of bricks in a building - the whole thing eventually comes tumbling down.
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