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Old 08-22-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Anything that is not a quantifiable exchange of goods across state lines should be left to the individual states.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Should whether employers can discriminate based on race or gender be up the states?
Private employers should be able to hire and fire whom they want, and serve whom they want, regardless of what the state or federal government says. Thats as much an individual right as anything else.

But thats a topic for another thread
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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It should have always been left up to the states.
Exactly. No where in the US Constitution is the federal government allowed to pass a death sentence except in prosecutions of treason. Why should it then be able to decide a death sentence on the human life in the womb is universally acceptable? This power remains with the states and the people since it is not specifically enumerated to the federal government.

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The supreme court decide it was an individual right. As such, states may not infringe upon that right.
It is possible for the citizens and/or Congress to nullify the Supreme Court opinions through legislation. The Supreme Court has been wrong before and they have been known to sell out the US Constitution in order to save the court (see FDR's threats to stack the court).
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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the only thing that States should control is how they can limit abortions (up to 14 weeks for example, after that you need a medical exception). They can't outright ban it.

Other than that, States should stay out of a woman's body.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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the only thing that States should control is how they can limit abortions (up to 14 weeks for example, after that you need a medical exception). They can't outright ban it.

Other than that, States should stay out of a woman's body.
But thats the problem, instead of allowing states that want to outlaw abortion that ability, they are resorting to trying to ban all forms of birth control which is just asinine.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Anything that is not a quantifiable exchange of goods across state lines should be left to the individual states.
Free speech is not a quantifiable exchange of goods. That should be left to the states? What about the right to bear arms? Freedom of religion, etc.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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When the states grow a womb. Until then, keep out of anyone else's.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It should have always been left up to the states.
Sorry, no.

The Federal government only has authority to deal with an issue, when it has been explicitly given the power to deal with it, by the Constitution.

But in this issue, it HAS been given that power.

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No person shall... be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law....
Abortion, clearly, has always been illegal in this country. Strange rhetoric about "emanations and penumbras" from the Supreme Court hasn't changed that.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Alexandria
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Should we get a sticky on this topic?
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Criminal laws for things like burglary, rape, homicide (which abortion is), etc. have traditionally been enacted at the state level rather than the federal level. The legal situation was close to ideal 50 years ago, with all states having statutes against abortion (except perhaps in a small subset of cases - abortion should be illegal, period.) However, circumstances have changed, and I believe that a federal law banning abortion would be fitting, as states with populations holding degenerate beliefs in this matter would surely protect this "right".
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