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Old 08-28-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The majority of registered sex offenders weren't convicted of anything involving children. Many of these offenders were convicted of behaviors which were totally non-violent and which were questionable as to their legitimate classification as sex crimes in the first place ("sexting", public nudity, consensual sexual contact between teenagers, etc.).

If someone has served their prison sentence, that should be the end of the matter unless they are psychologically incapable of safely being integrated into society again. If that is the case, they need to be confined until they no longer pose a danger to the public. These cases are rare. There are some state treatment programs designed for individuals who have finished their prison sentences. Unfortunately, these programs are often equatable with imprisonment itself.

If the idea is to protect society from violent sexual predators, we need to ask why dangerous individuals are released from confinement at all. We could just as easily ask that question concerning released criminals who were incarcerated for non sex-related crimes.

Our current fascination with sex offender registries is, for the most part, a result of repressed and unhealthy sexual attitudes meeting up with paranoia.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The majority of registered sex offenders weren't convicted of anything involving children. Many of these offenders were convicted of behaviors which were totally non-violent and which were questionable as to their legitimate classification as sex crimes in the first place ("sexting", public nudity, consensual sexual contact between teenagers, etc.).

If someone has served their prison sentence, that should be the end of the matter unless they are psychologically incapable of safely being integrated into society again. If that is the case, they need to be confined until they no longer pose a danger to the public. These cases are rare. There are some state treatment programs designed for individuals who have finished their prison sentences. Unfortunately, these programs are often equatable with imprisonment itself.

If the idea is to protect society from violent sexual predators, we need to ask why dangerous individuals are released from confinement at all. We could just as easily ask that question concerning released criminals who were incarcerated for non sex-related crimes.

Our current fascination with sex offender registries is, for the most part, a result of repressed and unhealthy sexual attitudes meeting up with paranoia.
Applause! I wish there was more common sense like this on the subject. Read Ethical Treatment for All Youth if you want to see some of the craziest cases.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: NH
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Cant believe that I am surrounded people that actually care for these types of people. Its sickening. I would assume those I am indicating have no children. Your telling me you would be ok living next to a registered sex offender that was convicted of child molestation? Yes that is one extreme but a valid question. Ladies, how about one living next to one who was convicted of rape? These people are sick and will always crave that type of behavior. Its nice to know who your neighbors are and I prefer to know before I put my family at risk.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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So collateral damage is OK with you?

And you have no problem with registering kids for consensual sex?
The problem isn't with the registry itself, it's with the definition of sex offender. Fix the definition so that only sexual predators are labeled sex offenders and register them. Registering people for sexting or sending lewd pictures of themselves os pointless - they could be out in the boonies doing the same thing. But keep pedophiles for example far away from schools or at least let people know which house they have to escort their kid past.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Cant believe that I am surrounded people that actually care for these types of people. Its sickening. I would assume those I am indicating have no children.
I do.

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Your telling me you would be ok living next to a registered sex offender that was convicted of child molestation? Yes that is one extreme but a valid question.
Lived downstairs from one convicted of statutory rape for almost 2 years, and he was no trouble at all; in fact he and his gf had a son about the same age as my younger boy. Very nice people.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Here is a video dealing with some of the problems related to California's sex offender registry:

Reason.tv: How Sex Offender Registries Fail Us - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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"Cruel and unusual punishment"? Are the poor little sex offenders getting their little bitty feelings hurt. oh no. If there are registered sex offenders then they can't be near children. Which is a good thing. So, the only person that it would bother in the family is the person that is willing to live with the yucky person and they have to live with the consequence of doing so. Big deal.
Or kids that had consensual sex. Or the parents of kids that had consensual sex.

You need to read a little more about this horrendous law and the lives it has ruined.

Here's some info to help you;

According to the news site AnnArbor.com, 23-year-old Matthew Freeman is facing a year in jail for violating Michigan's laws for convicted sex offenders. He was caught by a police officer playing basketball within 400 feet of a school. He also happened to be in front of his own home. Michigan law requires him to remain more than 1,000 feet away from places where children congregate. Freeman's mother says she checked with Pittsfield Township police before moving to the home to be sure it complied with Freeman's status. She says they told her it did. They now say it's Freeman's responsibility to make sure he doesn't violate the sex offender law.


Freeman was convicted of fourth-degree sexual assault in 2003 for having sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend. He was 17 at the time. The conviction required him to spend 10 years on the state's sex offender list. After seeing the girl again and later getting caught stealing a video game, he was sentenced to 90 days in jail, and ordered to remain on the list until 2028. At that point he dropped out of high school, and hasn't gone back.


But let's not be too harsh on Michigan's law. I'm sure that because of the continuing harassment of people like Freeman, 17-year-boys and 15-year-old girls are no longer having sex in Michigan.


Sex Offender Law Nabs Man Shooting Hoops in His Driveway - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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But keep pedophiles for example far away from schools or at least let people know which house they have to escort their kid past.
There's no evidence that residency laws do anything whatsoever to deter sex crimes.

JURIST - Hotline: Sex Offender Residency Restrictions Impede Safety Goals
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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But let's not be too harsh on Michigan's law. I'm sure that because of the continuing harassment of people like Freeman, 17-year-boys and 15-year-old girls are no longer having sex in Michigan.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:19 PM
 
Location: NH
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I do.



Lived downstairs from one convicted of statutory rape for almost 2 years, and he was no trouble at all; in fact he and his gf had a son about the same age as my younger boy. Very nice people.
I was never referring to statutory rape, where the bf may have been 18 and the gf 17. Im referring to rapists, molesters, pedophiles, etc..

I stated in my original post that it is unfortunate that many victims of statutory rape are placed on this list.
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