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Old 08-31-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yeah right.
Do you think the WWI Army entrance exams were biased, too small a sample or inaccurately measured intelligence?

 
Old 08-31-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Uh there is plenty of hard data that would argue otherwise.

Starting with SAT/ACT scores, level of education, teenage pregnancy rates, etc.
Wow. Do you say the same about the inner city black population?
 
Old 08-31-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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This also goes for other accents like the stereotypical Jersey, Minnesota, or Valley Girl accents. Don't be fooled by what you hear on TV. Most Southerners don't have accents anything like those portrayed on TV. My 24 year old daugher (born, raised and educated in the South) lives in Boston. And none of her coworkers could figure out where she came from until she told them. And she had a hard time pegging those who were born and raised in Boston because they didn't sound like the stereotype pushed for that area.

Keep in mind people who live 25 miles north of Boston dont have that Boston Accent. Also a lot of times the more someone speaks with folks from other areas the less likely they are to have an accent.
My wife grew up in central nh and does not have an accent , as well as her sister dosnt have one either.. Their brother does. He tends to work local, the 2 girls work with folks from all over new england.

Her sister has 2 adult sons , 2 yrs apart. One is a mortgage broker and has no accent. The other works local construction and has an accent.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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Keep in mind people who live 25 miles north of Boston dont have that Boston Accent. Also a lot of times the more someone speaks with folks from other areas the less likely they are to have an accent.
My wife grew up in central nh and does not have an accent , as well as her sister dosnt have one either.. Their brother does. He tends to work local, the 2 girls work with folks from all over new england.

Her sister has 2 adult sons , 2 yrs apart. One is a mortgage broker and has no accent. The other works local construction and has an accent.
Exactly. You can't generalize about accents or people.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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More important question: Who's stupid enough to waste time watching Jerry Springer?


Amen to that. The idiots that watch that junk is as stupid as the ones on the show. And you find these people all over the country. It is not a southern thing.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Do you think the WWI Army entrance exams were biased, too small a sample or inaccurately measured intelligence?


Possibly all three, but definitely not accurate.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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wow this thread is filled with racist of people of the south .

Not all people in south are white trash and there white trash in other states too.



Los Angeles unemployment is 15% and higher in some areas and gang capital of th enation.

And Detroit is ghetto
 
Old 08-31-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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Southerners are dumb at the same rate as Northerners, Westerners, Canadians, Californians, Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Stupidity knows no geographic bounds.
Well actually, there is an argument to be made here. Consider that in the American South (but not all southern states), most areas lacked a bona fide public education system until after the Civil War. Reason they didn't have it before the war was because cotton or staple crop production enabled people to have a livelihood. Book learning, so it was said, only ruined a good field hand. In short, it had no applicability.

Even after the Civil War, most southern states offered a lackluster public education system that locked out much of the population. Blacks had the most substandard schools while poor whites were forced to pay for textbooks. This system existed in most southern states until the 1920s (1940s in Mississippi). If poor people had to pay to send their kids to the public school, then most opted out of education altogether.

After World War II, most of the country's public education system was quite bad, but inferiority was rife in the South.

Only recently have southern states picked up in the area of public education and still it pretty much sucks in most states South of Tennessee. One reason is probably the emphasis on athletics over academics and now the battle cry is "book learning only ruins an offensive lineman and leads them to that commie sport, soccer."

Now just because southerners have gotten into the education game only recently doesn't necessarily mean southerners are stupid. Rather it shows that education is not something generally valued in many of the Deep South, rural locales.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Southerners are dumb at the same rate as Northerners, Westerners, Canadians, Californians, Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Stupidity knows no geographic bounds.
Agreed. Let's not forget that the liberal hero Bill Clinton is a good ol' Arkansas boy.
 
Old 08-31-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Well actually, there is an argument to be made here. Consider that in the American South (but not all southern states), most areas lacked a bona fide public education system until after the Civil War. Reason they didn't have it before the war was because cotton or staple crop production enabled people to have a livelihood. Book learning, so it was said, only ruined a good field hand. In short, it had no applicability.

Even after the Civil War, most southern states offered a lackluster public education system that locked out much of the population. Blacks had the most substandard schools while poor whites were forced to pay for textbooks. This system existed in most southern states until the 1920s (1940s in Mississippi). If poor people had to pay to send their kids to the public school, then most opted out of education altogether.

After World War II, most of the country's public education system was quite bad, but inferiority was rife in the South.

Only recently have southern states picked up in the area of public education and still it pretty much sucks in most states South of Tennessee. One reason is probably the emphasis on athletics over academics and now the battle cry is "book learning only ruins an offensive lineman and leads them to that commie sport, soccer."

Now just because southerners have gotten into the education game only recently doesn't necessarily mean southerners are stupid. Rather it shows that education is not something generally valued in many of the Deep South, rural locales.
You are correct that some parts of the South value education less than others. But, that is true of other areas of the country as well. Education as a whole wasn't of much value pre-Civil war. Few occupations required more than brawn. Few people (in all States) had access to education and even fewer felt it to be necessary to daily life. The son of a farmer in the South was more valuable in the fields and the son of a coal miner in the North was more valuable in the mine. Fancy book learning wasn't valued.

And while parts of the South were slower to embrace the need for education, others led the way. The first private university was founded in Massacheusetts. The first public one was founded in North Carolina, a Southern State, well before the Civil War.
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